Baptismal Rapprochement Between Southern Baptists and Churches of Christ? 

John Mark Hicks: Just as Zurich (“Zwinglianism”) and Geneva (“Calvinianism”) found sacramental common ground in the Consensus Tigurinus, my paper at the 2009 Christian Scholar’s Conference explored whether such a rapprochement is possible between Southern Baptists and Churches of Christ who, in many ways, are the credobaptistic heirs of Zurich and Geneva. Since there is presently a renewed discussion among Southern Baptists and British Baptists concerning baptismal “sacramentalism” 

and there is also a new openness among Churches of Christ toward a more historic Calvinian understanding of baptism as a means of grace,   

there is hope for some kind of “rapprochement” between Southern Baptists and Churches of Christ in the United States. With historical perspective and theological reflection Churches of Christ and Southern Baptists are potentially on the verge of a Consensus Americanus.

Lordy, is the second coming! The way to have a consensus Jesusicus is to speak where the Bible speaks and be silent where the Bible is silent. It is clear that the Baptists (at least some of the 146 franchises) have made a historic industry out of trying to twist away all of the clear statements in the Bible. In the words of John MacAuthor, "it might be that Acts 2:38 means what it says." The latter day Baptists rest their case on the notion that contrary to all recorded evidence, the word for or EIS in Acts 2:38 means that we are baptized BECAUSE of the remission of sins. There is no babble loaded books which can get close to a shot-gun marriage without convincing the Baptists and the wannabes that EIS really means that we are baptized FOR or INTO or IN ORDER TO the remission of sins.  Luke follows up closely to cut the scholars off at the pass by saying that we are converted THAT OUR SINS BE REMITTED.  Now, I don't know how you can make that fit in a bed too short,. 

John Mark Hicks: Generally, the Consensus united the Protestant Swiss Cantons in their sacramental theology and offered a mediating position between Zwingli and Luther which was ultimately Calvin’s own position

When John Calvin uses the word "sacrament" it is not nearly as complex. None of these writers were repudiating baptism but the Catholic notion

I know it is a common belief that forgiveness, which at our first regeneration we receive by baptism alone,
The sinner receives forgiveness by the ministry of the Church; in other words,
        not without the preaching of the gospel.

        And of what nature is this preaching?

            That we are
washed from our sins by the blood of Christ.
            And what is the
sign and evidence of that washing if it be not baptism?
We see, then, that
that forgiveness has reference to baptism.

This is not a sign of previous washing but is the outward act requesting that God give us A holy spirit or A good conscience which is the result of having our sins washed away.  

The Catholics believed that the ACT of sprinkling water on an infant removed original sin: Calvin denies that. Baptism must be connected to faith in the fact that it is the act of Christ in washing away our sins. This cannot happen unless one believes. Therefore, in the real context salvation is not possible to an infant based on BAPTISM ALONG.  Everyone agrees that we our sins are remitted after we have obeyed and complied with the object of our faith.

John Mark Hicks: In particular, the sacraments, according to the Consensus, offer (praestat) what the signs symbolize (Article VIII), the reality is not separated from the sign (Article IX), and the signs are themselves instruments of divine grace (Article XIII). The Consensus bridged a gap between Zwingli and Luther by stressing the instrumentality of the signs by the power of the Spirit.

However, a Calvinist would naturally assign the giving of the SIGN only to those predestinated by God from all eternity. Baptists who are Calvinists still believe that and so the UNITY is spoiled for the Church of Christ. 

The signs effect nothing by themselves (Article XII) but “they are indeed instruments by which God acts efficaciously when he pleases” 

while at the same time “salvation” is “ascribed” to God “alone” (Article XIII) because “it is God who alone acts by his Spirit” (Article XII).

While that is true, salvation is also ascribed to God alone without the death, burial and resurrection.  The body "prepared for" Christ was not theological material and was made of about 85% water. Would we say that the cross as the instrumental means is SUBSEVIENT to God's purpose for ALL people whom He pleases to save.  As God in Christ Jesus The Christ of God gets to define the INSTRUMENTAL means of his operations. John Calvin agrees with this perfectly.  If Christ in Spirit prophesied a future WASHING by water and Mark connects it to the baptism by John and the disciples of Jesus then the eunuch was pretty smart when just by knowing Isiah he made the request.  Here is the Isaiah Scroll which would have read just like the eunuchs.  

12. (10) Hear the word of YHWH princes of Sodom and give ear to the Torah of our God people of Gomorrah. (11) What are they to me,
13. your multiplied sacrifices, says YHWH, I am sated with holocausts of rams and the fat of fatlings, and in the blood
14. of bulls and lambs and goats I have no delight. (12) When you come to see my face to make this request
15. from your hands treading my courtyard. (13) Do not continue to bring empty gifts, Incense is an abomination
16. to me, new moon and sabbaths, calling of reading meetings, I am not able to endure even the sacred assembly. (14) Your new moons and seasonal feasts
17. my soul hates, they are a burden to me, I am tired of bearing them. (15) And when you spread your hands I will hide my eyes
18. from you, also when you multiply prayer I will not listen, your hands are full of blood. [+and your fingers+] 
19. [+of iniquity+] (16) Wash and make yourselves clean and turn away the evil of your habitual practices from before my eyes, stop doing evil. (17) Learn
Isa 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
Rachac
(h7364) raw-khats'; a prim. root; to lave (the whole or a part of a thing): - bathe (self), wash (self).

Le.14:9 But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean.
20. to do well, pursue judgement, bless the oppressed, judge the orphan, contend for the widow. (PP)
21. Please come and let us reason together says YHWH,
        if your sins are like scarlet they shall be white as snow

Revealed by the Spirit of Christ as a promise and threat.

22. if they be as red as crimson they shall be as wool. (19)
       
If you are obedient and you give heed
       then
of the good of the Land [{you shall eat.}]
Fulfilled by Jesus Christ. He that believeth AND is baptized SHALL BE saved. 
23. (20) But if you refuse and you rebel
        you will be devoured by the sword because the mouth of YHWH has said it.
Fulfilled by Jesus Christ. He that believeth not (Apistos meaning to rebel) shall be damned.
Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water;
        what doth hinder me to be baptized

Acts 8:37 And Philip said, 
        that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

G2967 kōluō ko-loo'-o From the base of G2849 ; to estop, that is, prevent (by word or act):—forbid, hinder, keep from, let, not suffer, withstand.
So FAITH was not the WHOLE thingy: it was a LACK of faith which would HINDER baptism and it was baptism which requested God to give them A holy spirit.

John Mark Hicks: 1812 was a significant year for both Churches of Christ and American Baptists. In that same year Alexander Campbell, Adoniram Judson and Luther Rice were immersed upon their profession of faith in Jesus and embraced credobaptism as biblical theology. 

False: Credo Baptists practice believer's baptism believe that saving grace and church membership are gifts from God by the recipient's faith alone.  Even so, this was to repudiate infant baptism based on the parent's faith.

Hicks: Believer’s baptism is held by some Baptists Evangelicals to have no saving effect, but to be a public expression of faith, symbolically representative of the baptisand’s own conversion

Alexander Campbell eta; Other Christian groups hold baptism to have salvific value. Churches of Christ for example, teach that baptism by immersion is a necessary part of salvation without which one cannot enter into the kingdom of God

Alexander Campbell Baptism Book IV: Nor is it only casually intimated that New Testament [249] baptism was ordained for this purpose. It is the only purpose for which it was ordained; whether in the hands of John or of the twelve Apostles. What could be more plain or intelligible than such forms of expression as the following:--"John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." (Mark i. 4.) It was not a baptism, but the baptism of repentance. It was not for remission of sins, but for the remission of sins. The fixtures of language could not more safely secure the intention of an institution. It was not because your sins have been remitted; but it is for, or in order to the remission of sins.

That was true when Alexander Campbell was baptized for the remission of sin by a Baptists because the Baptists practiced immersion: he thought that the Kingdom of God was among the Baptists si

Hicks suggests that the proper view is the credobaptism view: dipping but BECAUSE you have been saved by your OWN faith.  They all twist Campbell to say that he "would fellowship" an unbaptized ethical easier than a baptized believer.  Not true: Campbell would rather ASSOCIATE with an unbaptized person who practiced Christian principles rather than a baptized person who did not practice Christian principles.

They say that Campbell would FELLOWSHIP all of the sects because they might have baptized believers.  However, Campbell said that if there were true Christians (as opposed to christians) they should COME OUT OF BABYLON. The Baptists flying the Church of Christ sign at once-Christian colleges insist that Campbell would FELLOWSHIP the sects. 

A History of the Baptists VIII

The Schism of Alexander Campbell.

They [Baptists] were little men in a big office. The office did not fit them. They had a wrong idea, too, of what was wanting. They seemed to think that a change of apparel-a black coat instead of a drab—broad rim on their hat instead of a narrow one—a prolongation of the face, and a fictitious gravity-a longer and more emphatic pronunciation of certain words, rather than scriptural knowledge, humility, spirituality, zeal, and Christian affection, with great devotion and great philanthropy were the grand desiderata ...

Some eight or ten pages of large dimensions, exhibiting our remonstrance against all human creeds as bonds of union or communion among Christian churches, and expressed a willingness, on certain conditions, to cooperate or unite with that Association; provided only, and always, that we should be allowed to preach and teach whatever we learned from the Holy Scriptures, regardless of any creed or formula in Christendom.

Mr. Campbell was regarded as a kind of religious Goliath, and was met at every cross road and every toll gate by well intentioned, half informed preachers of the different denominations and challenged to produce his credentials, to enter into a discussion in defense of his original and peculiar views. Our hero was nothing loth to do so. Such opportunities were precisely what he desired. A vast audience would gather together to hear what to them was vastly more attractive than a great battle to the death between two celebrated gladiators.

There is not anyone promoting the Stone-Campbell Movement trying to REUNITE by CAPITULATION to the use of INSTRUMENTS who does not deliberately force Alexander Campbell to lie for them.

In the Missing Lunenburg Correspondence, Alexander Campbell wrote among other things:

5. In the last place, to be satisfied with any thing that will just do in religion,
        is neither the Christian disposition nor character;

        and not to desire to know and do the whole will of God,
                places the individual out of the latitude and longitude

                of the opinion which we have advanced.

These things being so, then we ask,  wherein does the avowal of such an opinion
         disarm us of arguments for professor or profane,

         on the value of the baptism in the Christian Institution;

                or the importance and
necessity of separating one's self
                from all that
will not keep the commandments of Jesus;
                and of submitting without delay to the requisitions of the illustrious Prophet
                whom the Almighty Father
has commanded all men to obey?

Irenaeus Against Heresies Book 1 Chapter XXI.-The Views of Redemption Entertained by These Heretics.

1. It happens that their tradition respecting redemption
267 is invisible and incomprehensible, as being the mother of things which are incomprehensible and invisible; and on this account, since it is fluctuating, it is impossible simply and all at once to make known its nature, for every one of them hands it down just as his own inclination prompts. Thus there are as many schemes of "redemption" as there are teachers of these mystical opinions.

And when we come to refute them, we shall show in its fitting-place,
that this class of men have been instigated by Satan to a denial of that baptism which is regeneration to God, and thus to a renunciation of the whole [Christian] faith.
2. They maintain that those who have attained to perfect knowledge must of necessity be regenerated into that power which is above all.
For it is otherwise impossible to find admittance within the Pleroma, since this [regeneration]
        it is which
leads them down into the depths of Bythus.

For the baptism instituted by the visible Jesus was for the remission of sins,
but the redemption brought in by that Christ who descended upon Him,
was for perfection;
and they allege that the former is animal, but the latter spiritual.

John Mark Hicks: Their heirs, however, engaged in hostile and sometimes bitter disputes over the design of baptism. 

"What a comfortable thing is this theory of regeneration! The sinner's to be regenerated when actively striving against the divine influence. At the moment of regeneration, "he has," in one sense, "no more efficient agency in accomplishing it than Lazarus had in becoming alive from the dead"; and in another sense, he is not passive, but "does all he can to resist the divine influence, and prevent his own regeneration, until he is made willing by divine almighty power." This is Standard divinity; and he that preaches divinity is a pious, regenerated, Regular Orthodox Baptist Christian Minister! Of how much value, on this theory, is all the preaching in Christendom? The Holy Spirit may be busily at work upon some drunken sot, or some vile debauchee, who is as dead as Lazarus on one side, and on the other resisting the Spirit with all his moral and physical energy, up to the moment that the Almighty arm pierces him to the heart with a sword, and makes him alive by killing him! Cincinnati Baptist Journal of 26th July

It is pretty hard to think that Hicks is not engaging in a hostile and bitter dispute over the design of baptism.  On the charge of Baptismal Regeneration refuting the FAITH ONLY, Campbell wrote.

"Our opponents contend for a regeneration begun and perfected before faith or baptism - a spiritual change of mind by the Holy Spirit, antecedent to either knowledge, faith, or repentance, of which infants are as susceptible as adults; and, therefore, as we contend, make the gospel of no effect.

By way of reprisals, they would have their converts think that we go for nothing but water, and sarcastically call us the advocates of "water regeneration." They think there is something more sublime and divine in "spirit regeneration"; and therefore claim the title of orthodox." Alexander Campbell, Regeneration

Contrary to those who slander "church of Christ cults" for preaching "baptismal regeneration" Campbell taught in part:

"VI. Baptism is, then, designed to introduce the subjects of it into the participation of the blessings of the death and resurrection of Christ; who "died for our sins," and "rose again for our justification." But it has no abstract efficacy. Without previous faith in the blood of Christ, and deep and unfeigned repentance before God, neither immersion in water, nor any other action, can secure to us the blessings of peace and pardon. It can merit nothing. Still to the believing penitent it is the means of receiving a formal, distinct, and specific absolution, or release from guilt.

"Therefore, none but those who have first believed the testimony of God and have repented of their sins, and that have been intelligently immersed into his death, have the full and explicit testimony of God, assuring them of pardon.

"To such only as are truly penitent, dare we say, "Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling upon the name of the Lord," and to such only can we say with assurance, "You are washed, you are justified, you are sanctified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of God." The Christian System, Baptism

One suspects that no more abuse has been heaped upon any group than from the Babtists agaisnt Baptism FOR the remission of sins and NOT beginning to use noise machines after never using noise machines. This is a psychological ploy to intimidate people against teaching that the Bible and most recorded history demands that baptism is required for the remission of sins.

John Mark Hicks: Generally speaking, conservative Stone-Campbell adherents—particularly among 20th century Churches of Christ—

moved away from Campbell’s own Calvinian understanding of baptism as a “means of grace” 
Hicks means A means of grace along with other means of grace.  However, the Bible says that Baptism is THE MEANS ordained by God in Christ as HIS plan for people to REQUEST that they be saved: that request in 1 Peter 3:21 is baptism. A form of doctrine is a "pattern capable of being imitated." We imitate that patter and only THEN are we said to be free from sin or saved.  If Baptism is just ONE means of Grace (which Calvin nor Campbell never taught) then there must be OTHER means of Grace.  Grace is Christ PERSONIFIED as He was the Word of God personified. Otherwise Grace is a goroup of browned-eyed Greek prostitute goddesses made known as SINGERS.
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that,
        denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
        we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us,
        that he might redeem us from all iniquity,
        and purify unto himself a peculiar people,
        zealous of good works.
Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

Campbell will be forced to define 4 levels of the meaning of Christian. He makes a distinction between one who is IGNORANT of the Gospel and one who has been taught: 

Campbell continued:

I do not formally answer all the queries proposed knowing the one point to which they all aim. To that point only I direct these remarks.  And while I would unhesitatingly say that I think that 
        every man who despises any ordinance of Christ 
        or who is willingly ignorant of it, cannot be a Christian;

still I should sin against my own convictions, should I teach any one to think that if he mistook the meaning of any institution while in his soul he desired to know the whole will of God he must perish forever.

But to conclude for the present--he that claims for himself a license to neglect the least of all the commandments of Jesus
because it is possible for some to be saved who through insuperable ignorance or involuntary mistake, do neglect or transgress it;

or he that
wilfully neglects to ascertain the will of the Lord to the whole extent of his means and opportunities because some who are defective in that knowledge may be Christians,
        is not possessed of the spirit of Christ and cannot be registered among the Lord's people.

        So I reason; and I think in so reasoning I am sustained by all the Prophets and Apostles of both Testaments.

John Mark Hicks: Since 1999 a large number of monographs and journal articles have appeared in British publications that have argued for baptismal sacramentalism, that is, baptism as the “evangelical sacrament” that is a normative part of the conversion narrative and A means of grace (cf. Anthony R. Cross, “The Evangelical Sacrament: Baptisma Semper Reformandum,” Evangelical Quarterly 80.3 [2008] 195-217 which is available at Jay Guin’s website–see also his posts on Baptist Sacramentalism and the work of Stan Fowler). This movement has embraced a Calvinian sacramental theology. Indeed, the Baptist World Alliance has come to some agreement with the World Alliance of Reformed Churches on the meaning of baptism.

There are a growing number of Southern Baptists who are moving in this direction as well though they are reticent about sacramental language. Their linguistic hesitation is rooted in some of the same qualms and perceived baggage that is also current among historic and contemporary Churches of Christ. 

I think what the Southern Baptist theologians and especially pastors have discovered to their consternation is that people INSIST on immediate baptism and about half believe that they were being baptized IN ORDER that their sins be remitted. The scholars are running really hard to try to conform to the common sense of anyone who has ever read the Bible.

At the same time, many of those who practiced believer's baptism as an old pagan practice, loved to hold the salvation of souls in their hands. A person who confessed their faith was not baptized until the dogma had been inculcated and the group judged their fitness to be a member of their congregation.  Jesus DID NOT die for their sins but He must come and die FOR THEM at their baptism or THEY must become Chrsit and die for their own sins. See the meaning of Believers Baptism which means the washing of those ALREADY clean..

John Mark Hicks: Nevertheless, there is a recognition that Southern Baptist practice has de-emphasized baptism. The most significant evidence of this shift is Broadman & Holman’s 2006 Believer’s Baptism: Sign of the New Covenant in Christ, edited by Thomas R. Schreiner and Shawn D. Wright.

Robert H. Stein writes a particularly illuminating chapter on baptism in Luke-Acts, arguing that the components involved in one becoming a Christian—repentance, faith, confession, the gift of the Spirit, and baptism—

Bible readers will notice the switching. Acts speaks of believing, repenting, confession of sins, Baptism, the remission of sins, then the gift of A holy spirit.  A spirit is A holy spirit when sin has been removed: this is never promised outside of baptism. 

are all very closely related temporally in Luke-Acts, often taking place on the same day (52). Rightly emphasizing the corporate nature of water baptism, Stein shows that the church baptized believers only in the book of Acts, as those being “added” to the church (Acts 2:41) involved both faith and baptism (55-56). 

In the book of Acts, to speak of a believer or one who comes to believe in Christ is to speak of one who has been baptized; indeed, water baptism is intimately connected to the new birth.

Jn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him,
Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
    Except a MAN be born AGAIN
    he cannot see the kingdom of God.

It is not possible to miss what Jesus said:
A MAN must be born AGAIN to SEE the kingdom.
The parallelism is
A MAN must be [future] born of H20 and Spirit.
Jn 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him,
        How can a MAN be born when he is OLD?

        can he enter the second time into his
        mother's womb, and be born?
Jn 3:5 Jesus answered,
Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
    Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit,
    he cannot enter
into the kingdom of God.
It insults Jesus to have him say that you cannot enter the kingdom until you are BIRTHED

Baptism, then, is not for those who have yet to receive the gift of the Spirit by faith, but only for those who have repented of sin and trusted in Christ alone for salvation.

Those conforming to the Baptists plan of salvation insist that the connection that Jesus made between BORN AGAIN and born of water and spirit teach the same thing as the reluctant Baptists trying to stall a total revision.

John Calvin speaking of this notes:

This error had its origin in the fictitious sacrament of penance, on which I have already touched. What remains will be said at the proper place. There is no wonder if men who, from the grossness of their minds, are excessively attached to external things, have here also betrayed the defect, - if not contented with the pure institution of God,

they have introduced new helps devised by themselves,
as if baptism were not itself a sacrament of penance.
But if repentance is recommended during the whole of life, the power of baptism ought to have the same extent. Wherefore, there can be no doubt that all the godly may, during the whole course of their lives, whenever they are vexed by a consciousness of their sins,
recall the remembrance of their baptism, that they may thereby assure themselves of that sole and perpetual ablution which we have in the blood of Christ.

John Mark Hicks: Churches of Christ are more open in recent years to moving back to Alexander Campbell’s own original Calvinian understanding of the instrumentality of baptism as a means of grace

Hicks misrepresents Alexander Campbells views of Baptism from a careless reading of BOOKS written about thse people.

If we are saved by GRACE and baptism is an instrumental means of grace, then how does that differ from being saved by baptism (by God) because that is the only time and Place Christ commanded us to REQUEST that grace.  John Calvin had a host of things to say about baptism: true it is a sign of many things but it is also a means.  A check is a sign that someone has given us some money. However, it has no valueuntil we present that SIGN at the bank.

John Calvin "that as many of us as were baptised into Jesus Christ, were baptised into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death," that we "should walk in newness of life," (Rom. 6: 3, 4.)

By these words, he not only exhorts us to imitation of Christ, as if he had said, that we are admonished by baptism, in like manner as Christ died, to die to our lusts, and as he rose, to rise to righteousness;
but he traces the matter much higher, that Christ by baptism has made us partakers of his death, in grafting us into it (Rom. 6:5).

And as the twig derives substance and nourishment from the root to which it is attached,
so those who receive baptism with true faith truly feel the efficacy of Christ's death in the mortification of their flesh, and the efficacy of his resurrection in the quickening of the Spirit (Rom. 6:8). On this he founds his exhortation, that if we are Christians we should be dead unto sin, and alive unto righteousness (Rom. 6:11).
He elsewhere uses the same argument, viz., that we are circumcised, and put off the old man, after we are buried in Christ by baptism, (Col. 2: 11-12.) And in this sense, in the passage which we formerly quoted, he calls it "the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost," (Tit. 3: 5.)
We are promised, first, the free pardon of sins and imputation of righteousness; and,
secondly
, the grace of the Holy Spirit, to form us again to newness of life.
We are promised it by grace, we receive it by grace, "the grace of God hath appeared TEACHING us to deny ungodliness."  Baptism is a SIGN that we are REQUESTING A good conscience or A holy spirit.  When we SIGN that request then Peters says without equivocation: BAPTISM DOETH NOW SAVE US.

Noah was saved by PURE GRACE:
Heb. 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet,
        moved with fear,
        prepared an ark to the saving of his house;
        by the which he condemned the world,
        and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

Heb. 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance,
        obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven,
        and will give unto thy seed all these countries;
        and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
Gen. 26:5 Because that Abraham
        obeyed my voice,
        and kept my charge,
        my commandments,
        my statutes,
        and my laws.
Gen. 26:6 And Isaac dwelt in Gerar

John Mark Hicks: Campbell’s baptismal theology articulated an instrumental understanding of baptismal grace but at the same time valued character more than ritual and mercy more than sacrifice. 

John Calvin He elsewhere uses the same argument, viz., that we are circumcised, and put off the old man, after we are buried in Christ by baptism, (Col. 2: 11-12.) And in this sense, in the passage which we formerly quoted, he calls it "the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost," (Tit. 3: 5.)

        We are promised, first, the free pardon of sins and imputation of righteousness; and,
        secondly
, the grace of the Holy Spirit, to form us again to newness of life.

As for SIGNS:

What greater boast could the apostles make, and what greater those who baptise in the present day?

For they are only ministers of the external sign,
whereas Christ is the Author of
internal grace,
as those same ancient writers uniformly teach, and, in particular, Augustine, who, in his refutation of the Donatists, founds chiefly on this axiom, Whoever it is that baptises Christ alone presides.

John Mark Hicks: A living faith that exhibited a transformed character was more important than the full enjoyment of assurance in baptism. 

Yes, I value old profane Jimmy Joe just up the valley more than the baptized brethren because if I needed help he would be the first one there. But, that would not make me so judgmental that I would not tell him about baptism.

John Mark and his circle of friends have put many lies into the mouth of Alexander Campbell. The fact that he had rather have as a friend a godly person in preference to a baptized believer who was not gody is used to say what John Mark has just said.  However, they have never read the lunenburg correspondence.  Campbell used the word "c"hristian as we speak of a christian nation. However, he deined that one was a "C"hristian who had not been baptized. IF there were Christians among the sects then they must "come out of Babylon." Alexander Campbell never came close to fellowship with Baptists whom he worked so hard to convert.

Both Alexander Campell and his Son in Law assert that Alexander Campbell fully understood the meaning of baptism when he was baptized by a human who happened to be a baptist.

Listen to the Baptists: Stone said: When he came into Kentucky, I heard him often in public and in private. I was pleased with his manner and matter. I saw no distinctive feature between the doctrine he preached and that which we had preached for many years, except on baptism for the remission of sins. Even this I had once received and taught, as before stated, but had strangely let it go from my mind, till Brother Campbell revived it afresh. I thought then he was not sufficiently explicit on the influences of the Spirit, which led many honest Christians to think he denied them. Had he been as explicit then, as since, many honest souls would have been still with us, and would have greatly aided the good cause. In a few things I dissented from him, but was agreed to disagree (Rogers).

Are there Christians among the sects: the Lunenburg correspondence.

I. With all despatch, then, I hasten to show that I have neither conceded nor surrendered any thing for which I ever contended; but that on the contrary, the opinion now expressed, whether true or false, is one that I have always avowed.

(Footnote in original reads: It is with us as old as baptism for the remission of sins, and this is at least as old as the "Christian Baptist." Read the first two numbers of that work.)

1. Let me ask, in the first place, what could mean all that we have written upon the union of Christians on apostolic grounds,
        had we taught that all Christians in the world
were already united in our own community?

2. And in the second place, why should we so often have quoted and applied to apostate Christendom what the Spirit saith to saints in Babylon--"Come out of her, my people, that you partake not of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues"--had we imagined that the Lord had no people beyond the pale of our communion!

3. But let him that yet doubts, read the following passages from the Christian Baptist, April, 1825:--

"I have no idea of seeing, nor wish to see, the sects unite in one grand army.
This would be dangerous to our liberties and laws. For this the Saviour did not pray.

It is only the
disciples dispersed among them that reason and benevolence would call out of them, "&c. &c. This looks very like our present opinion of Christians among the sects!!! 2d ed. Bethany, p. 85.
And:

3. To admit that there may be Christians among the sects,

does not derogate from the value or importance of baptism for the remission of sins,
any more than it derogates from the superior value and excellency of the Christian Institution
to admit that salvation was possible to the Jews and Patriarchs without the knowledge and experience
of all the developments of the New Testament.

For besides the Christian disposition, state and character, there are the Christian privileges.
Now, in our judgment,
there is not on a earth a person who can have as full an assurance of justification or of remission of sins,

as the person who has believed, confessed his faith, and been intelligently buried and raised with the Lord; and therefore the present salvation never can be so fully enjoyed, all things else being equal, by the unimmersed as by the immersed.

4. Again, as every sect agrees,
        that a person immersed on a confession of his faith is
truly baptized,
        and
only a part of Christendom admits the possibility of any other action as baptism:

for the sake of union among Christians, it may be easily shown to be the duty of all believers to be immersed,
if for no other reason than that of honoring the divine institution and
opening a way for the union and co-operation of all Christians.

Besides, immersion gives a constitutional right of citizenship in the universal kingdom of Jesus;
whereas with our opponents, themselves being judges, their "baptism"
gives the
rights of citizenship
only in some provinces of that kingdom
.

For as far as baptism is concerned, the Greek, the Roman, the English, the Lutheran, the Calvinian, the Arminian, the Baptist communities will receive the immersed;

while only a part of Christendom will acknowledge the sprinkled or the poured.
Therefore, our opinion militates not against the value of baptism in any sense.

5. In the last place, to be satisfied with any thing that will just do in religion,
        is neither the Christian disposition nor character;

        and not to desire to know and do the whole will of God,
                places the individual out of the latitude and longitude

                of the opinion which we have advanced.

These things being so, then we ask,  wherein does the avowal of such an opinion
         disarm us of arguments for professor or profane,

         on the value of the baptism in the Christian Institution;

                or the importance and
necessity of separating one's self
                from all that
will not keep the commandments of Jesus;
                and of submitting without delay to the requisitions of the illustrious Prophet
                 whom the Almighty Father

                has commanded all men to obey
?

John Mark Hicks:  However, few in mid-twentieth century Churches of Christ believed that faith without baptism was transformative. Baptism was regarded more like a line in the sand or, to mix the metaphor, a watershed moment.

I assume that Hicks now believes that the LEADERS believe that FAITH ONLY transforms the person WITHOUT baptism.  That is CONVERGENCE like the shepherd letting the wolves converge with the lambs.  Why is it that turning your coat is so popular these days?

In my own Little Wild Church in the Dead woods, an ACU agent came in to CONVERGE the congregation at the request of the elders. It literally took only weeks for the NON LEADERS but PAYMASTERS to detect that he was about SELLING OUT the church. He didn't last long when the church GREW from about 350 to less than 200 and all of the teens left.  Isn't it a deadly sin to claim that "doctors of the law" are THE LEADERS?

I don't believe that anyone can believe that FAITH without obedience has any value at all.  When the WORD is planted then it begins to germinate and produces faith.  However, the seed must DIE, be transformed and rise to a new life. It goes from seed to plant as the producer of seed.

Heb. 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: 
        for he that cometh to God
        must believe that he is,
        and that he is a rewarder of them
        that diligently seek him.
At Pentecost it was a Sinshed moment.  People were saved, received A holy spirit cleansed of their old guilt, were added to the Church and their spirits were translated into a heavenly kingdom.  Hicks wants salvation by faith to be the only WATERshed moment. 

John Mark Hicks:“Convergence” (Stan Fowler’s word) or rapprochement (Caneday’s word in Believer’s Baptism, p. 304) is possible within the paradigm shift currently evidenced among some leaders of Churches of Christ and some Southern Baptists. In a paper entitled Consensus Tigurinus and a Baptismal Rapprochement Between Southern Baptists and Churches of Christ for the 2009 Christian Scholar’s Conference (which I have uploaded to my Academic page), 

John Mark Hicks: I identified four points that are significant for this converging baptismal theology. I explored these in more detail in an earlier essay but in this new essay place them in the more specific context of discussion within the last decade. These four points are:
1. Baptism is a normative part of the New Testament conversion narrative
2. Calvinian baptismal theology correctly identifies the soteriological significance of baptism as a means of grace.
3. Baptism serves faith and is subordinate to faith’s soteriological function as baptism participates in the instrumentality of faith. 
4. Salvation, as a process of transformation into the image of Christ, 
        gives baptism its theological importance 

        and limits its soteriological significance. 

THE FALSE CLAIM:

As Southern Baptists move to recognize (1) & (2) and
Churches of Christ are increasingly recognizing (3) & (4), convergence upon a biblical theology of baptismal grace is possible.

FALSE CLAIM 3

Don't ever believe anyone who can speak and thinks purely withing the theological tiny circle.

John Mark Hicks is a Theologian and not remotely a Bible student. In the profession of theology you are about forced to use the writings of other theologians so that they will use your books and invite you to the "ecumenical" gathering of a superior class. Jesus said that doctors of the law take away the key to knowledge.

It is one thing for people who want to study theological in a neutered atmosphere, but Jesus told us that theologians speak TO and FOR themselves and not for the Church of Christ. When John Mark Hicks makes these wild assertions it becomes psychological violence to try to convince the faithful members that they are ignorant, out of step and will just be laughed at.

The first false claim speaks from the rare atmosphere of accomodative theology but turns ALL of the Bible upside down. That is fine for Theologians, that is their job, that is what they do.

3. Baptism serves faith and is subordinate to faith's soteriological function as baptism participates in the instrumentality of faith.

Faith and obedience are two words. It is a fact that in Mark 16, he that BELIEVETH the word demands TO COMPLY so that He that COMPLIETH by being baptized shall be saved. Believeth not is APISTOS and means to COMPLY NOT, to be a traitor.

Meaning FAITH ONLY is what COUNTS: Baptism participates but is SUBORDINATE.  Of course, that violates the Bible, common sense and Alexander Campbell who will NOT be made to participate in false teachingx

Leroy Garrett is also very unlearned in the Bible and in Restoration history: why would he be so dismissed by almost everyone other than closet baptists who believe any thing ANTI church of Christ. He twists Campbell's use of things like citizenship and marriage to say that the INTENTION and not the ACT was important.  However,
Christian System PROP. IX.--That it is not faith, but an act resulting from faith, which changes our state, we shall now attempt to prove.

No relation in which we stand to the material world--no political relation, or relation to society,
can be changed by believing, apart from the acts to which that belief, or faith, induces us.

Faith never made an American citizen, though it may have been the cause of many thousands migrating to this continent, and ultimately becoming citizens of these United States.

Faith never made a man a husband, a father, a son, a brother, a master, a servant, though it may have been essentially necessary to all these relations, as a cause, or principle preparatory, or tending thereunto.--

Thus, when in scripture men are said to be justified by faith, or to receive any blessing through faith, it is

because faith is the principle of action, and, as such, the cause of those acts by which such blessings are enjoyed.

But the principle without those acts is nothing; 
and [167] it is only by the acts which it induces to perform, 
that it becomes the instrument of any blessings to man.

Many blessings are metonymically ascribed to faith in the sacred writings.

We are said to be justified, sanctified, and purified by faith--to walk by faith, and to live by faith, &c. &c.

But these sayings, as qualified by the Apostles, mean no more than by believing the truth of God we have access into all these blessings.

So that as Paul explains, 'By faith we have access into the favor in which we stand.' These words he uses on two occasions, [Rom 5:2; Eph 3:12] when speaking of the value of this principle, contrasted with the principle of law; and in his letter to the Hebrews, when he brings up his cloud of witnesses to the excellency of this principle, he shows that by it the ancients obtained a high reputation--that is, as he explain, by their acts of faith in obedience to God's commands.

I think that there are many passages which prove that one can believe or have faith but not obey. So, faith by itself has no power.
Luke 7:29 And all the people that heard him, and the publicans,
        justified
God, being baptized with the baptism of John.
Luke 7:30 But the Pharisees and lawyers
        rejected the counsel of God against themselves,
        being not baptized of him.

John 12:42 Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him;
        but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him,
        lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

1Pet. 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us,
what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
The Gospel is not a CORE: the gospel was the gospel of the KINGDOM. Faith that a door exists has no value unless you ENTER IN which is only by baptsm where we ASK God to give us A good conscience or A holy spirit.
1Pet. 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us
(not the putting away of the filth of the flesh,
but the [request for] a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
No, baptism is not subordinate to faith: one has FAITH and the next part of the SEQUENCE is to be baptized.
He that believeth AND is baptized shall be saved. Simple reading 101

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
John 1:12 But as many as received him,
to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name:
John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

To receive Christ is to Believe on his name by receiving the Word.

Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart,
and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles,
Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Peter told them what they MUST DO: in the Cornelius event Peter told him what to do to be SAVED.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, [You MUST do this]
Repent,
and

be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ
for the remission of sins,

[in order that your sins be remitted]

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 3:19
Repent
ye therefore,
and be converted,
that your sins may be blotted out,

when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; [recovery of breath, COOLING off. ]

Ab-luo abluere sibi umbras, to remove darkness (by bringing a light), Of the washing away of earth by a shower, Verg. A.2.719 wash away the blood
In eccl. Lat., of baptism: munere divinitatis abluti, L
II. Trop., of calming the passions: omnis ejusmodi perturbatio
animi placatione abluatur, be removed (fig. derived from the religious rite of washing in expiation of sin),
  1. Those who believed received the POWER to become the sons of God.
  2. In acts 2:37 the people obviously believed.
  3. Peter told them to repent AND be baptized FOR (Eis) the remission of sins.
  4. Only after their spirit was FREE from sin did they have A holy Spirit.
  5. The POWER was never in the FAITH but in OBEYING that form of doctrine.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying,
Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

  1. No one was added to them because they believed the word.
  2. After they were baptized, they were saved by their actions and were added to the church.
  3. No one is added to the church by Christ Himself until they request discipleship at baptism
Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

They continued in the court and porches. No, they did not worship with instrument music. They taught the apostles doctrine (not a core gospel) because that was where the sinners were.

Acts 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
Acts 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Acts 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people.
And the Lord added to the church daily such as [were being] saved.


No one was added to the Church of Christ until they obeyed the Gospel of the Kingdom of Christ.
Hicks is radically wrong: Ephesians 2 says that we are saved BY grace THROUGH faith. Faith is never and EIS or INTO or UNTO word. We pass THROUGH faith and from the first part of Ephesians 2 we are RAISED with Christ when we are baptized.

FALSE CLAIM 4

4. Salvation, as a process of transformation into the image of Christ,
        gives baptism its theological importance

        and limits its soteriological significance.

That says that baptism has a THEOLOGY importance but baptism's SAVING significance is LIMITED.  As salvation or transformation cannot begin until We have our spirits purged from sin. This happens ONLY at baptism. Baptism is called a new birth.  Now, Jesus wants us to be DISCIPLES of HIS WORD and the transformation from new-born child to a mature person, is accomplished by the Word of God.

Alexander Campbell, Christian Baptism, Book IV: must have been one of those bitter people because he continued to preach that baptism was required.

The gospel system is a system of redemption--a deliverance of its subjects from ignorance, guilt, and bondage. It contemplates a new creation--a transformation of man in body, soul, and spirit. It is, therefore, a great system of physical, moral, and spiritual means and ends. Hence, its doctrine, its precepts, and its promises are but developments of a remedial system, originating in the benevolence of God, guided by his wisdom, and perfected by his power.

This scheme of mercy has its parts; and each of these parts has its own peculiar object. 

Faith is not a substitute for repentance, holiness, or righteousness; 
but a means to these ends. As a means, it is, indeed, indispensable to every one of them.
Prayer, reading or hearing, and meditation are means of sanctification.
But any one of these, without the other, would be incomplete and incompetent to the end proposed.

So of the positive institutions of the Christian system. Baptism, the Lord's day, and the Holy Supper are indispensable provisions [247] of remedial mercy. Not one of them can be dispensed with by any one who desires the perfection of the Christian state and of the Christian character.

Eating
, drinking, sleeping, exercising, though not of the same nor of equal importance, are, nevertheless, all essential to the preservation and comfortable enjoyment of the human system. 

7. Cyprian: "While," says he, "I lay in darkness and uncertainty, I thought on what I had heard of a second birth, proposed by the divine goodness, but could not comprehend how a man could receive a new life from his being immersed in water, cease to be what he was before, and still remain the same body. How, said I, can such a change be possible? How can he, who is grown old in a worldly way of living, strip himself of his former inclinations and inveterate habits? Can he, who has spent his whole time in plenty, and indulged his appetite without restraint, ever be transformed into an example of frugality and sobriety? Or he who has always appeared in splendid apparel, stoop to the plain, simple, and unadorned dress of the common people? It is impossible for a man, who has borne the most honourable posts, ever to submit to lead a private and obscure life: or, that he who was never seen in public without a crowd of attendants and persons who endeavoured to make their fortunes by attending him, should ever bear to be alone. This," continues he, "was my way of arguing: I thought it was impossible for me to leave my former course of life, and the habits [270] I was then engaged in and accustomed to; but no sooner did the life-giving water wash the spots off my soul, than my heart received the heavenly light of the Holy Spirit, which transformed me into a new creature; all my difficulties were cleared, my doubts dissolved, and my darkness dispelled. I was then able to do what before seemed impossible: could discern that my former life was earthly and sinful, according to the impurity of my birth; but that my spiritual birth gave me new ideas and inclinations, and directed all my views to God." 

God REcreates us as the Word did in the beginning:

Psa. 33:6 By the [1] word of the  [2] LORD were the heavens made;
        and all the host of them by the  [3] breath of his mouth

Animus The rational soul.  to blow, a storm, blow, spiritus = breath, breeze, energy, high spirit, Post-Augustine=soul, mind,

I. In a general sense, the rational soul in man in opposition to the body,
3. Consciousness (physically considered) or the vital power, on which consciousness depends
4.The conscience,  
    I.a knowing of a thing together with another person, joint knowledge, consciousness .
    I. A joint knowledge of something, a being privy to, a knowing along with others, privity, cognizance, etc.
2 Corinthians 3: only those converted or baptized have A holy spirit and can read BLACK text on BROWN paper.
B. In partic., a consciousness of right or wrong, the moral sense, conscience:
Those refuting God about baptism may be amoral because they  are "still in their sins."
Purgo. I.to make clean or pure, to clean, cleanse, purify1.To clear from accusation, to excuse, exculpate, justify,
2.To cleanse or purge from a crime or sin with religious rites, to make expiation or atonement for, to expiate, purify, atone for, lustrate, = expiare, lustrar  C.Pure, freed from sin
Salvus I. saved, preserved, unharmed, safe, unhurt, uninjured, well, sound
1Pet. 3:21 The like figure whereunto even 
        baptism doth also now save us
        (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh,
        but the [request for] a good conscience toward God,)
        by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

And corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-- not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-- through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 1 Peter 3:21NAS

Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 1 Peter 3:21RSV

Exactly parallel to Mark 16

Pr 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold,  [Convert, be baptized in N.T.]
        I will pour out my SPIRIT that unto you, [gift of A holy spirit]
        I will make known my WORDS which unto you. [a good conscience - co-perception
Pr 1:24 Because I have called, and ye refused; 
        I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
Pr 1:25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel,
        and would none of my reproof:
Luke 7:30 But the Pharisees and lawyers 
        rejected the counsel of God against themselves,
        being not baptized of him.
Prov. 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
Prov. 1:27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind;
        when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Prov. 1:28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
Prov. 1:29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
Rom. 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: 
        but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind,
        that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

2Pet. 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy;
        whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place,
        until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
2Pet. 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

MORE LATER: 

While significant differences still remain (especially as Reformed notions of regeneration and election lie in the background of some of this theological shift among Southern Baptists), I am convinced a new consensus is possible with the self-conscious adoption of something akin to a credobaptist Calvinian baptismal theology—which, in my estimation, is a biblical theology. 

Probably there is a lot of Calvinism at LU but I am quite certain that they never read Calvin other than second hand. Click for the real Calvin. Calvin treats each VALUE of baptism somewhat independant but he attributes more to baptism than others.

Southern Baptists and Churches of Christ have an opportunity to live in harmony, practice a shared biblical theology of baptism and together promote the kingdom of God for the sake of the world.