Come,” by Jay Guin. I’ll
offer an alternative approach to hermeneutics, based on
the Mount and related passages.
Jay Guin: “The Early
Instrumental Music,” by Danny Corbitt.
Danny, the author of Missing More Than Music: When
Eclipse Worship and Unity,
will offer material regarding the historical argument that
brand new to most readers. Recent research into the
thinking of the Early Church Fathers has dramatically
understanding of why they said what they said about
Jay Guin: “Reconsidering
Ephesians 5:19” by Clyde Symonette. Clyde will offer an
approach to the
passage that I’d never heard before and that I think is a
interpretation than any other I’ve ever heard.
Jay Guin: “Psallo:
Translation?,” by Danny Corbitt,
providing an extensive word study on psallo.
AL MAXEY VIOLATING DIRECT COMMANDS BY
THAT WHICH CHRIST FINISHED.
Jay Guin: “Reflective
or Regulative? Inquiry into Two Interpretive Principles
and their Application
Maxey. Al will offer a critique of the Regulative
5 --- "That with
respect to the commands and ordinances of our Lord Jesus
Christ, where the
silent, as to the express time or manner
performance, if any such there be;
Christian church subscribed to the High Church
no one ever voted for to give themselve the right to use
Church Councils, Traditionalism and Silence.
Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ (the Rock) in the
It was INCLUSIVE
of Rest, Reading and Rehearsing the Word of God.
It was EXCLUSIVE
of "vocal or instrumental rejoicing." Simple peoplle
know better than
to do that when Jesus comes to be our only Teacher when
WE teach or
sing "that which is written" or "that which has been
taught." Romans 15
which EXCLUDES all rhetorical, musical or theatric
synagogue which, by direct command never had a "praise
ekklesia which in the civil sense would hurt musicians
the performing artists before defining the role of the
Jesus "cast out"
Musical Minstrels using a term "like dung."
pipers, singers and dancers to the marketplace with all
pollutants and consumables.
apostles make DISCIPLES: Disciples are students and
that we "Teach what He has COMMANDED to be taught."
Jesus did not
ceremonial legalism but a School of His Word
Those who IMPOSE
instruments know that they have no command, example or
They in fact
make a LAW
which is often spoken out loud: "Get over it or get
They assume that
a DEFICIENCE in the Word of God.
no human authority
has power to
in order to supply
by making laws for
can any thing more be
required of Christians in such cases,
instruments knowing that it will sow discord and NEEDING
originally violates the Direct command of Christ and all
history which defends CENI. If you refuse to be
tossed out of
your own "synagogue" by robbers, you are FORCED to
observe what you and
all history defines as a sin.
but only that
they so observe
these commands and ordinances,
evidently answer the
declared and obvious end of their institution.
Much less has any human
authority power to impose new commands or ordinances
church, which our Lord Jesus Christ has not enjoined."
The BURDEN, dear sectarian, is that YOU must show where
commanded instruments. On the contrary, any reader of
"words" and pagan
patterns knows that Christ in Spirit did in fact repudiate
Minsltrels always marked as witches or sorcerers--as did
If anyone can show me in
Scriptures where our Lord has specifically declared His
of the use of instruments as either
an accompaniment or aid to singing, then I will
position and declare that divine disapproval
the absence of such evidence, however, I must choose not
put the assumptions of mere men into His mouth. If all
of this was
truly a matter of eternal life and death, as some
assert, I find it
most odd ... don't you?! ... that God
never uttered a single
syllable about it anywhere
in the Bible. He didn't even hint
at divine disapproval.
Thus, neither shall I.
You would be bound to explain why even simple simons never
"congregational singing with the organ in
in that oriental style lwas never opposed until the year
Some will have noticed that Christ was the Word of God (not
Who created all things. It is Christ who defined the
of Tyre as "the singing and harp-playing prostitute in the
Eden." It was Christ who had Isaiah define the MARKS of
sight and sound
of God driving His enemies into hell: it would be the same
and percussion instruments Lucifer used when she was cast as
out of heaven.
Christ identified the Scribes and Pharisees as Hypocrites:
false preachers, singers and instrument players.
Christ spoke through John in the book of Revelation. In
he warns about the rise of the Babylon Mother of
Revelation 18 "she" used "lusted after fruits" which is
parallel to Amos. In Revelation 18 John identified the
instrument players and ALL religious teknokrats as
So, from Genesis where the Serpent is defined as a musical
to Revelation where the same harlot uses musical enchanters
the whole world.
As practiced by Jesus who stood up to read the assigned text
decently sat down, Paul, Peter and early church history
of Rest, Reading and Rehearsing the Word of
of "vocal or instrumental rejoicing." That
alarm or triumph over: in Psalm 41 it will be the
identifying MARK of
Judas whose "Judas bag" carried the mouthpieces of wind
instruments. That speaks of the tongues OF THE WORLD:
refused to pray for the WORLD and god HID Himself from the
See the origin of the Synagogue in the Wilderness
the Church of Christ.
To presume to INTERPRET the Word of God about anything is
terminal arrogance. Peter spoke of the Apostles, who
prophets who spoke by Christ, as Eye- and Ear-witnesses of
resurrection glory of Christ who confirmed HIS right to
supernatural signs and willingness to be murcered.
Second Peter 1 which outlaws what Al Maxey works so hard
This is after the "Jerusalem Counsel" defined the synagogue
terms which everyone understood.
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath
in every city
them that preach
synagogues every sabbath day.
Paul explains why the Jews were blinded at Mount Sinai and
back into musical idolatry. For this affront of 'making
music' on the
REST day God turned them over to worship the starry host:
the "gods" worshipped in the temple whatever the Scribes
marked the Scribes as hypocrites and in the Ezekiel 33
account He named
performance speakers, singers and instrument players.
2Cor. 3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope,
great plainness of speech:
2Cor. 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his
hat the children of
not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
2Cor. 3:14 But their minds were blinded:
for until this day
same vail untaken away
in the reading
of the old
testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2Cor. 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the
vail is upon
2Cor. 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the
vail shall be taken away.
2Cor. 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where
is, there is liberty.
2Cor. 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a
glass the glory
of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to
as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Peter agreed that the Prophets by Christ and the prophecies
perfect by Jesus are the primary READING material to mold
the image of Christ and not to the effeminate speakers or
with no Biblical funding.
2Pet. 1:19 We have also a more sure word of
whereunto ye do well
that ye take
heed, (the only Worship Word in the spirit or mind)
as unto a light that
shineth in a
until the day dawn,
and the day
The Evil Day Star is Lucifer: Christ in the prophets called
singing and harp-playing prostitute in the garden of
MARKS of God driving His enemies into "Hell" will be thesame
string and percussion instruments.
God will treat the Musical bandits to the same
practiced before and after Hezekiah's plague stopping
PATTERNISM is taken from 2 Chronicles 29: Hezekiah replaces
the CHILDREN burnt offering with GOAT burnt offerings to try
Israel. Immediately before this chapter and immediately
after it the
Levites returned to burning infants to Molech a cult they
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to
them that have obtained like precious faith with us
righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
2Pet. 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied
unto you through
the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, hath
unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness,
the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory
and virtue: having
escaped the corruption [connects to musical
that is in the world through lust.
I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things alway
1:16 For we have not followed cunningly
[sophizo] devised fables, when we
made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus
were eyewitnesses of
are myths from MUO [to shut the mouth: music forces
lambs to be silent before the slaughter]
Muthos 2. fiction (OPPOSITE. logos, historic truth)embroidered
lies Poikilos 2. of Art, p. humnos a song of
changeful strain or full of diverse art, Pi.O.6.87;
“poikilon kitharizōn” Id.N.4.14;
“dedaidalmenoi pseudesi poikilois muthoi” Id.O.1.29;
style, “lexis poiētikōtera kai p.” Isoc.15.47
(Comp.); “skhēmatismoi” D.H.Is.3.
are myths from MUO [to shut the mouth: music forces
lambs to be silent before the slaughter]
Sophis-tês ,A. master
of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49;
of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalon” Pi.I.5(4).28,
cf. Cratin.2; of
musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun” A.Fr.314,
cf. Eup.447, Pl.Com.
140; sophistē Thrēki (sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924,
cf. Ath.14.632c: with
modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn”
II. from late v B.C., a Sophist, i.e. one
gave lessons in grammar, rhetoric, politics,
A. sorcerer, wizard,
Phoronis 2, Hdt.2.33,4.105, Pl.R. 380d,
Phld.Ir.p.29 W.; “g. epōdos Ludias apo khthonos” E.Ba.234,
f.l. for boēsi Hdt.7.191.
2. juggler, cheat, “deinos g. kai pharmakeus kai sophistēs” Pl.Smp.203d;
“magos kai g.” Aeschin.3.137:
1:20 Knowing this first,
that no prophecy of the scripture is of any
YOU CANNOT WITHOUT BEING MARKED
from 1956; explanation, i.e.
application: - interpretation.
OR EXPOUND WITH RHETORIC OR MUSIC AS
(g1956) ep-ee-loo'-o; from 1909 and 3089; to solve
i.e. (fig.) to explain,
release from, e. phobôn [fear] didou A.Th.134
(lyr.): abs., exemption
[purgatory?]. The word dissertio
also carries the idea of trying to REMOVE fear by
explaining away any
worry about keeping laws.
2. . solution, “sophismatōn” S.E.P.2.246; explanation,
2 Pet. 2:1 But there were false prophets also among
there shall be false teachers among you,
privily shall bring in damnable heresies,
denying the Lord that bought them,
upon themselves swift destruction.
2Pet. 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways;
of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Pet. 2:3 And through covetousness shall
they with feigned words make merchandise of you:
judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their
Jay Guin: “An Afternoon
Seidman” is an interview by me of Rick and Chris.
Rick is the
minister of The Hills Church of Christ (formerly
Church of Christ), which is the largest congregation among
of Christ. Chris is the senior minister of the Farmer’s
of Christ. Both congregations have added instrumental
addition to their a cappella services.
Guin: Rich and Chris
will address a variety of topics,
they made the
how they handled
how the addition of
services have helped the congregations fulfill
Jay Guin: “Reflections
on My Interview with Rick Atchley and Chris Seidman,” by
Jay Guin. This
will be my reflections on what Rick and Chris taught
me in the
interview. And they taught me a lot.
Both Chris and Rick follow the play book of the NACC which
handlers to help make the switch. Each and every one of the
yanked out of context is twisted to try to FORCE the curse
upon Israel because of musical idolatry at Mount
course, being a Bible student is not required when you are a
rhetorician which Jesus identified as a hypocrite.
The musical fall from Grace at Mount Sinai
always refuted the "lying pen of the unlawful king's
Christian Chronical posted the boast before the first
of discord over adding the "musicl worship team" (a
heretical term) and
then firing the deacons and selecting or hiring some
number was 6,400 members. After the addition of
roughly 4,500 attendance dropped to roughly 3,500 which
means that the
"owners" had their pocket picked three times as the moved
to now rougly 4,000+ by countinng two congregations.
October 9, 10, 2010
Guin: “Beyond the Pitch
Pipe” by Ryan Christian. Ryan is the worship minister
for The Hills
Church of Christ, and he will address what any
instrumental service needs to know about the
practicalities of adding
an instrumental worship.
NRH Campus: 3,871
WFW Campus: 162
Weekly Budget: $176,043
Jay Guin is using as authority those
"handled" by the NACC and their White Paper full of
black lies to move
their congregationa away from the Church of Christ (the
collecting stage) to a defacto Christian church (the
diversions of the
All of those who have been used (willingly) rest their
case on the Law
of the Monarchy which God permitted to carry out the
death sentence imposed because of musical idolatry at
Sinai. Rick Atchley actually uses a plague
slaughter used for exorcism when the sacrifices and
sounds were taken
out of quarantine which God promised would bring on His
see, it’s time. It’s time to get past the “whether it’s
and move on to the “Is it necessary for this church?”
for some churches, to the “How do we do it?”
these articles about every-other day. The Q&A with
Chris will be broken down into four posts, due to the
length and depth
of their comments. And they are deep.
particularly proud of this body of work — meaning the
people other than me. First, I’m thrilled to introduce
readers to Clyde
Symonette, a Bahamian minister for the Westridge
Church of Christ,
Nassau, Bahamas. We Americans tend to assume that all
good Church of
Christ theology comes from the USA. God’s mission is to
nations into his Kingdom, and that can’t happen if no
one outside the
U.S. gets to be a part of these discussions. Until then,
don’t know about you, but I
love a good discussion about doctrinal and practical
issues — when the topic is close to my heart. And
this one is. It’s an
issue I grew up with and live with. It’s part of who I
am. And I’ve
savored every word of these articles. Agree or disagree,
thoughtful, well-written, insightful, fresh
Just as long as you agree with Jay Quin: He won't
tolerate any quoting of the REAL TRUE stuff.
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