Patrick Meed on Instrumental Music

Rochester Church of Christ: Instrumental Music.

Patrick Mead, defends Instrumental Music for Rochester Church of Christ #2: CD 20070627  12.26.10 REV

See part one as a foundation stone.

    There we proved from the Words of Christ that to use your own imagination rather than speak the very Words of Christ is blasphemy.



The first two reasons assert that under the Old Testament, God did not just allow instrumental music, He commanded and blessed it. Rick offered the following passages for these contentions: 2 Chronicles 5:13-14; 7:6; 29:25-26; Psalm 33:1- 3; 92:1-3; 150:1-6.

Never mind that the godly tribes were quarantined. No singer or player went INTO or NEAR a holy thing or place on the penalty of death. Some of these patterns are separated from the last by up to 300 years.


Stand in the gate of the Lords house [courts], and proclaim there this word,
        and say, Hear the word of the Lord, all ye of Judah,
        that enter in at these gates to worship the Lord. Jeremiah 7:2

Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel,
        Amend your ways and your doings,
        and I will cause you to dwell in this place. Jeremiah 7:3 

Trust ye not in lying words, saying,
        The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord,
        The temple of the Lord, are these. Jeremiah 7:4

Jer. 8:8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is WITH US?
        THE PEN OF THE SCRIBES IS in vain.

For I spake NOT unto your fathers, nor commanded them
        in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
        concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: Jeremiah 7:22

Cyril of Alexandria, Commentary on John,  

That the Pharisees puffed up unto strange boasting,
        were wont to pretend that the Divine Word was with them and in them,
        and therefore foolishly affirmed that they had advanced to marvellous wisdom, 
        the Spirit Itself will testify, 
        since Christ says by the Prophet Jeremiah unto them, 
                How do ye say, WE are wise, and the word of the Lord is with us?
                For nought to the scribes became their lying pen;
                the wise
men were ashamed, were dismayed and taken;
                what wisdom
is in them? because they rejected the word of the Lord.

For how are they not taken rejecting the Living and Hypostatic Word of God,
         receiving not the faith to Him-ward, 
         but dishonouring the Impress of God the Father,
         and refusing to behold His most true Form (so to say)
         through His God-befitting Authority and Power?


John 6:44 No man can come to me,
        except the Father which hath sent me draw him:
        and I will raise him up at the last day.
        And they shall be all taught of God.
        Every man therefore that hath heard,
        and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

2Pet. 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words
        which were spoken before by the HOLY PROPHETS
        and of the commandment of us the APOSTLES of the Lord and Saviour:

IT WAS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHO SPOKE THROUGH THE PROPHETS AND NOT LYING SCRIBES whom He called hypocrites by naming speakers, singers and instrument players in Ezekiel 33.

    1Pet. 1:10 Of which salvation the PROPHETS have inquired and searched diligently,
            who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
    1Pet. 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time
            the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify,
            when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ,
            and the glory that should follow.    

God did NOT speak through the lying pen of the Scribes who recorded the Monarchy which God had NOT commanded.

Heb. 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners
        spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb. 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us BY HIS SON
        whom he hath appointed heir of all things,
        by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb. 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory,
        and the express image of his person,
        and upholding all things by the WORD of his power,
        when he had by himself purged our sins,
        sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high

THOSE WHO DELIBERATELY SOW DISCORD BY QUOTING THE LYING PEN OF THE SCRIBES (hypocrites: speakers, singers, instrument players) are defined by the Spirit:

Jer. 23:16 Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
        Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you:
        they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart,
        and not out of the mouth of the LORD.

Jer 23:17 They say still unto them that despise me,
        The Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace;
        and they say unto every one that walketh
        after the imagination of his own heart,
        No evil shall come upon you.   

Despise tthe Word of God of God and using your own words is:

Blasphēm-eō , pf. A. “beblasphēmēka” D.18.10:—speak profanely of sacred things, “eis theous” Pl.R.381e; offer rash prayers,

1. Because Christ as Spirit spoke ONLY through the prophets.
2. Those who use use the pattern of the Lying Pen of the Scribes, in fact despise and ignore the SPIRIT message.
3. Christ in Jeremiah defines that as blasphemy

Hebrew: H5006 nâ’ats naw-ats' A primitive root; to scorn; abhor, (give occasion to) blaspheme, contemn, despise, flourish, X great, provoke. 1.04.11 Bible 101a

Identifying themselves as Progressive and postmodern, they deny that God defined His will for all times in the Scriptures. That means that they can clip out instrumental exorcism in the midst of burning goats which Christ in the prophets says were NOT COMMANDED, and use it as psychological violence to intimidate people to fall into the same, terminal musical idolatry as at Mount Sinai for which God turned them over to worship the starry host and sentenced them to return to "beyond Babylon.

The Church of Christ has existed under that name in all periods of Church history. It has never in history used instrumental "music" to enhance the teaching of the Words of Jesus Christ.  While there is no role for the modern sermon speaker, those men who decide to take a wage from the Church of Christ and then use all of their time and energy trying to undermine it are never to be trusted with your soul or your money.

Those who substitute songs and sermons out of their own imagination will produce only evil: that is why God in Christ told us what to teach as HIS way of causing spiritual growth. From the Church of Christ in the wilderness, endorsed by Jesus, Preached and practiced by Paul and Peter and continued throughout the early history of the church, the SOLE ROLE is:

Luke 4:43 And he said unto them,
        I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also:
        for therefore am I sent.
Luke 4:44 And he preached in the synagogues of Galilee.
Jesus used the Synagogue as the place to preach the gospel of the Kingdom which is His body, His church.
Christ ordained that in the Wilderness and Jesus fulfilled it.
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city
        them that preach him,  

        being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.  

Now, in the AGORA or MARKETPLACE there would always be pagan worship, singers, instrument players, dancers, meat markets and veggie stands for everyone, stump preachers and even prostitutes. The ekklesia (church) was SEPARATED from the public spectacle. Therefore, if the Christians had met in the marketplace to sing and play instruments they could have attracted the masses.

Acts 17:1 NOW when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, 
        they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews

And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, 
        and three sabbath days

        reasoned with them out of the scriptures, Acts 17:2

If you are singing the silly, erotic praise ditties while doing "body" worship, INSTEAD of using "that which is written" (Rom 15), you are engaging in the public Act of Blaspheming the Spirit of Christ.

Those intending to destroy your faith will always claim that it is not Christian to question anyone's faith AT THE SAME time they define those who REFUSE to dance when they pipe as legalistic. Don't believe it: Jesus cast the musical minstrel's out "like dung" and consigned the pipers, singers and dancers to the marketplace where all of the other merchandise was sold.

Titus 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he HATH BEEN taught,
         that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Elegkhō , Od.21.424, disgrace, put to shame, muthon e. treat a speech with contempt,
II. cross-examine, question, accuse one of doing, E.Alc.1058
2. test, bring to the proof, 4. refute, confute
b.  put right, correct, prove by a reductio ad impossibile, expose
False teachers use "liberty" to impose their bodies and their music when it HATH NOT been taught.

Titus 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Anupo-taktos , on, of persons or things, A. not made subject, irregular, poiēmata, of dithyrambs

They believe that they are Co-workers of Christ:
Heb 7.[8] You have put all things in subjection under his feet." For in that he subjected all things to him, he left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we don't see all things subjected to him, yet.
Strab. 16.2.37 Afterwards superstitious persons were appointed to the priesthood, and then tyrants. From superstition arose abstinence from flesh, from the eating of which it is now the custom to refrain, circumcision, excision, and other practices which the people observe. The tyrannical government produced robbery; for the rebels plundered both their own and the neighbouring countries. Those also who shared in the government seized upon the property of others, and ravaged a large part of Syria and of Phœnicia.
The Progressives will "steal the church house of widows" after they have seized their money for another purpose.
Ektom-ē , h(, (ektemnō)
A. cutting out, excision, Plu.Alc.16 (pl.): metaph., hēdonōn, logou, Ph.1.450,170;
cutting off
, “karpōnPorph. ap.Eus.PE3.11.
2. castration , Hdt.3.48,49, Pl.Smp.195c (pl.), etc.
b. circumcision of women, Str.16.2.37.
Titus 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses,
        teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.
Subvert Ana-trepō  3. upset in argument, refute, disheartened, upset with murmuring sounds.
kerdos , eos, to/, A gain, profit, Od.23.140, etc.; enoēsen hoppōs k. how some advantage can be gained, what is best to be done.
2.desire of gain, “kerdei kai sophia dedetaiPi.P.3.54;

Sophia: cleverness or skill in handicraft and art, in music and singing, in poetry, in divination

Pi.P.3.54; And those who came to him afflicted with congenital sores, or with their limbs wounded by gray bronze or by a far-hurled stone, [50] or with their bodies wasting away from summer's fire or winter's cold, he released and delivered all of them from their different pains, tending some of them with gentle incantations, others with soothing potions, or by wrapping remedies all around their limbs, and others he set right with surgery. But even skill is enthralled by the love of gain.
Titus 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said,
        The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
EVIL BEASTS: Thērion, III. [select] as a term of reproach, beast, creature, “ō deilotaton su thērionAr.Pl.439, cf. Eq.273; “kolaki, deinō thēriōPl.Phdr.240b; “Krētes, kaka th.Epimenid.1; dusnouthetēton th., of poverty, Men. Georg.78; “ mousikē aei ti kainon thērion tiktei

A New Style of Music and Drama

The Mother of the Gods--Gongs and Clangs and Emasculating Music

-17) Strabo Geography 7.3.4 (Loeb)

Indeed, these facts are confirmed by the other writers as well. Further, it is not reasonable to suppose that the same people regard as wretched a life without many women, and yet at the same time regard as pious and just a life that is wholly bereft of women. And of course to regard as "both god-fearing and capnobatae"

"capnobatae," or "smoke-treaders" (see Herodotus 1. 202 and 4.75) to the custom of generating an intoxicating vapor by throwing hemp-seed upon red-hot stones. Berkel and Wakefield would emend, respectively to "capnopatae" and "capnobotae" ("smoke-eaters," i.e., people who live on food of no value).

those who are without women is very much opposed to the common notions on that subject;

for all agree in regarding the women as the chief founders of religion,
and it is the
women who provoke the men to the more attentive worship of the gods,
festivals, and to supplications,
        and it is a rare thing for a man who lives by himself to be found addicted to these things.

And again, happy he who, blest man, initiated in the mystic rites, is pure in his life, . . . who,

preserving the righteous orgies of the great Mother Cybele,
and brandishing the thyrsus on high, and wreathed with ivy, doth worship Dionysus.
Come, ye Bacchae, come, ye Bacchae, bringing down (back home) Bromius, (boisterous one) god the child of god, out of the Phrygian mountains into the broad highways of Greece.

And again, in the following verses he connects the Cretan usages also with the Phrygian: (Cretans were "liars" because they claimed to have the tomb of the real Zeus)

O thou hiding-bower of the Curetes, and sacred haunts of Crete that gave birth to Zeus, where for me (leader/spokesperson for the chorus) the triple-crested (helment)

Corybantes (Phrygian castrate priests of Cybele) in their caverns
invented this hide-stretched circlet, (
tambourine) and blent its Bacchic revelry with the high-pitched,
sweet-sounding breath of
Phrygian flutes, and in Rhea's hands placed its resounding noise, to accompany the shouts of the Bacchae, (ev-ah!) Mother and from Mother Rhea frenzied Satyrs obtained it and joined it to the choral dances of the Trieterides, (Triennial Festivals) in whom Dionysus takes delight. Bacchae And in the Palamedes the Chorus says,

Thysa, daughter of Dionysus, who on Ida rejoices with his dear mother
in the
Iacchic revels of tambourines.

"This Eve, on account of her having been in the beginning deceived by the serpent, and become the author of sin,

the wicked demon, who also is called Satan,
who then spoke to her through the

and who works even to this day
in those men that are
possessed by him
invokes as Eve." (Theophilus, p. 105)

-Vergil Aeneid 3.153.

Ere Ilium and the Trojan tow'rs arose.
In humble vales they built their soft abodes,
Till Cybele, the Mother of the gods,
With tinkling cymbals charm'd th' Idaean woods,
She secret rites and ceremonies taught,
Vergil Aeneid 3.90
The Isle of Crete, abode of lofty Jove,
rests in the middle sea. Thence Ida soars;
there is the cradle of our race. It boasts
a hundred cities, seats of fruitful power.
Thence our chief sire, if duly I recall
the oIden tale, King Teucer sprung, who first
touched on the Trojan shore, and chose his seat
of kingly power. There was no Ilium then
nor towered Pergama; in lowly vales
their dwelling; hence the ancient worship given
to the Protectress of Mount Cybele,
of Gods, what time in Ida's grove
the brazen Corybantic cymbals clang,
or sacred silence guards her mystery,
and lions yoked her royal chariot draw.

Gregory Nazianzen: again Minerva is a maid, and yet brings forth a dragon: again Hercules is mad, or rather has ceased to be mad: again out of lasciviousness and impurity, Jove, teacher, and sovereign of the gods, turns himself into all sorts of things; and though able to draw up all the gods together with all living things, is himself drawn down by none: again Jupiter's tomb is shown in Crete.

If I see thy god of gain, thy god of speech, thy president of games, I close my eyes and run past thy god out of shame for the exhibition:23 thou mayest, for ought I care, adore the tension of his--speech (shall I call it), and his money-bag. One thing alone of them all is respectable--namely, the honours paid amongst the Egyptians to the Nile by the catamite,24 also those to Isis, and the gods of Mendes and the Apis bulls, and the other things thou dost sculpture or paint, composite and monstrous creatures, thy ludicrous Pan, thy Priapus, thy Hermaphroditus; and the gods who castrate themselves, or tear themselves to pieces.

23. 1 Of his distinguishing emblem, the erect genital member.

24. 2 Some indecent ceremony not mentioned by other authors; unless, perhaps, Gregory has vaguely in his recollection what Herodotus tells of the boat procession with the women that exposed their persons and uttered scurrile jests as they sailed by the villages on the banks.

Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
Elegkhō , Od.21.424, disgrace, put to shame, muthon e. treat a speech with contempt,
II. cross-examine, question, accuse one of doing, E.Alc.1058
2. test, bring to the proof, 4. refute, confute
b.  put right, correct, prove by a reductio ad impossibile, expose
Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

Jewish Fables are Myths or Music in OPPOSITION to LOGOS
Muthos , 2. [select] fiction (opp. logos, historic truth), Pi.O.1.29 (pl.), N.7.23 (pl.), Pl.Phd.61b, Prt.320c, 324d, etc.

Pind. O. 1 Yes, there are many marvels, and yet I suppose the speech of mortals beyond the true account can be deceptive, stories adorned with embroidered lies; [30] and Grace, who fashions all gentle things for men, confers esteem and often contrives to make believable the unbelievable. But the days to come are the wisest witnesses

Pind. N. 7 For those great acts of prowess dwell in deep darkness, if they lack songs, and we know of only one way to hold a mirror up to fine deeds: [15] if, by the grace of Mnemosyne with her splendid headdress, one finds a recompense for toils in glorious song. Skillful men know the wind that will come on the day after tomorrow, and they do not suffer loss through the love of gain. The rich man and the poor man alike travel together to the boundary of death. [20] And I expect that the story of Odysseus came to exceed his experiences, through the sweet songs of Homer, since there is a certain solemnity in his lies and winged artfulness, and poetic skill deceives, seducing us with stories, and the heart of the mass of men is blind. For if [25] they had been able to see the truth, then mighty Aias, in anger over the arms, would never have planted in his chest the smooth sword

Plat. Phaedo 61b before making sure that I had done what I ought, by obeying the dream and composing verses. So first I composed a hymn to the god whose festival it was; and after the god, considering that a poet, if he is really to be a poet, must compose myths and not speeches, since I was not a maker of myths, I took the myths of Aesop, which I had at hand and knew, and turned into verse the first I came upon. So tell Evenus that, Cebes, and bid him farewell, and tell him, if he is wise, to come after me as quickly as he can.

Logos , o(, verbal noun of legō (B), with senses corresponding to legō
Opposite pathos or preachers stories.
Opposite sensibly perceived
Opposite Epagōg-ē , 2. bringing in to one's aid, introduction, 4. allurement, enticement,
b. incantation, spell,
                    5. process of reasoning, Aristox.Harm.pp.4,53M.
                    b. esp. in the Logic of Aristotle, argument by induction sullogismōparadeigma
7. leading away into captivity, captivity, LXX Is.14.17: generally,
                         distress, misery,
ib.Si.23.14 (pl.), cf. Hsch.
                    Plat. Rep. 364c
Since they are masters of spells and enchantments
                            that constrain the gods to serve their end  In Laws 933 D both
                            are used of the victim with epōdais, song sung to or over: hence, enchantment, spell,
And if it be held that a man is acting like an injurer by the use of spells, incantations,
                            [933e] or any such mode of poisoning, if he be a prophet or diviner, he shall be put to death;
Opposite poetry or music
and commandments of men,

Face it: you are bound by the COMMANDEMENTS of God or you are an imposter

that turn from the truth.
Apo-strephō having twisted back the hands and feet so as to bind them, abandon.

Third on Musical Instruments

How it got started
, he wants to approach the study seriously

Patrick Mead started pulling at the thread, a practice from treating mental illness 
He looked from Genesis to Revelation about all of the worship and instrument worship: some were shakers and bangers because God said:  Make a joyful noise befor the Lord.
ALL musical sounds have bitter roots: the Levites as an old Egyptian infant-burning cult were warriors and not worship leaders. If God did not COMMAND warfare, animal sacrifices or burnt offerings then we have to find them inconnection with the Civil-Military-Priestly comples. These had been abandoned to worship the starry host BECAUSE of musical idolatry the day given by God to REST from all worship of the starry hosts which were on the evil seventh day.

The godly people were commanded to REST from all of the profaning of the Sabbath in the sacrificial system. They could attend Qahal or School of the Word of God Only.

They were QUARANTINED from inside the gates of the city when the NOT commanded animal sacrifices took place; the instrumetal noise in all pagan systems was called EXORCISM. That is why John called the speakers, singers and instrument players in Revelation 18 SORCERERS.


Exodus 15:[20] sumpsit ergo Maria prophetis soror Aaron tympanum in manu egressaeque sunt omnes mulieres post eam cum tympanis et choris

God will afflict Miriam with leprosy when she claims to speak for God.  The first meaning of prophet in the PAGAN sense meant a charismatic, musical performer.  All dramatic performance is INTERPRETATION which is, according to Paul, just speaking in tongues.
Prophe-ta  I. a foreteller, SOOTHSAYER prophet... oraculorumque interpretes, sacerdotes Aegyptiorum, quos prophetas vocant, [Priestess of Egpt prophetess call out] Aegyptius, propheta primarius

Aegyptius, propheta primarius
1.  Aegyptius,
2.  Prophetai
3.  Primarius I. one of the first, of the first rank, chief, principal, excellent, remarkable,
primarius parasitus,


2. Esp. (eccl. Lat.), the mercy-seat, the place in the tabernacle in which the presence of God was manifest
C. An oracular saying, oracle pronounced by a man. OF DELPHI AND APOLLO.

Mantis diviner, seer, prophet Pythian priestess, 3. Adj., toude manteôs chorou [round dance] of this prophetic band, dub. in S.Fr.113. II. a kind of grasshopper, the praying mantis, Mantis religiosa, obscure speech.

The musical grasshopper or Lucusts is John's word to define the Muses unleashed by Apollyon for the end time final attempt at seduction. II. the ode sung at one of these festive processions,

Here are the sophists who have been ELEMINATED in the church.  Sophis-teia, opposite to sophia, mantikê, of Balaam, ib.609; title of work by Hermagoras of Amphipolis, Stoic.1.102: acc. to Poll.4.50, a barbarism.

Mantikê,Mania [mainomai] ) madness, sphodra hêdonê katechousa  
enthusiasm, inspired frenzy, m. Dionusou para E.Ba.305 ; apo Mousôn katokôchê te kai m. Pl.Phdr. 245a ; theia m.,
OPPOSITE sôphrosunê anthrôpinê meaning having control over the sensual desires, temperate, self-controlled, moderate, chaste, sober,
Logos. The ACT of speaking is logik-os , ê, on, ( [logos] ) the organs of speech
A. of or for
speaking or speech, logikê, hê, speech,
OPPOSITE to mousikê
The phrase: Mousôn katokôchê  Mousa I. the Muse, in pl. the Muses, goddesses of song, music, poetry, dancing, the drama, and all fine arts II. mousa, as appellat., music, song, Pind., Trag.:--also eloquence, Eur.:--in pl. arts, accomplishments, Ar., Plat.

Defined as the Hypocrite arts above.
Melôid-ia , hê, singing, chanting, E.Rh.923, etc II. chant, choral song, melôidias poiêtês Pl.Lg.935e , cf. 812d; lullaby, ib.790e: generally, music, Phld.Mus.p.12 K.
The phrase: Mousôn katokôchê  katokôchê 1 [attic for katochê] a being possessed, possession (i. e. inspiration),

God denied that Miriam had the authority to INTERPRET for him:
I. An agent between two parties, a broker, factor, negotiator, divūm, the messenger of the gods, i. e. Mercury,
II. An explainer, expounder, translator, interpreter (syn. internuntius) portentorum, a soothsayer,

Arnobius writing (A.D. 297-303)

In continuing his discussion of how the power of Christ works, the soothsayers, augurs and magicians has been replaced by those who pour "dulcet sounds" into the ears--

For indeed it evidences a worthless heart to seek enjoyment in matters of importance; and when you have to deal with those who are sick and diseased,

to pour into their ears dulcet sounds, not to apply a remedy to their wounds." (Arnibious, Ante-Nicene, VI, p. 430)

If the Sibyl, when she was uttering and pouring forth her prophecies and oracular responses, was filled, as you say, with Apollo's power, had been cut down and slain by impious robbers, would Appolo be said to have been slain in her? If Bacis, If Helenus, Marcius, and other soothsayers, had been in like manner robbed of life and light when raving as inspired, would any one say that those who, speaking by their mouths, declared to inquireres what should be done?" (Arnobious, Ante-Nicene, VI, p. 431)

Danny Corbitt follows the same patternin discussing PSALMOS
Psalmos also appears in the LXX as equivalent to the Hebrew word neginah. This Hebrew term is used to describe a wide variety of songs. Neginah is translated by psalmos in Lam 3:14 (song), in Lam 5:14 (music) and in Ps 69:12 (song). It is striking to observe that in the LXX translation of Lam 3:14 and Ps 69:12, psalmos, or its verbal form, is used for songs that are not only uninspired but are in fact the product of the wicked, even drunkards, who mocked God and His word. The Hebrew term neginah is used elsewhere in the Hebrew Scriptures of: the songs of the wicked, Job 30:9 (song); the inspired praise of God, Psalm 61 title (Neginah-a song performed on a stringed instrument); and the uninspired praise of the Lord composed by King Hezekiah, Is 38:20 (my songs). Ivan Foster

From the Bible and all recorded history the urge to approach their "god" with music demanded a sexual or homosexual approach.
Is. 23:15 And it shall come to pass in that day,
        that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king:
        after the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot.

How do you sing as a harlot:

Is. 23:16 Take an [1] harp, go about the city,
        thou harlot that hast been forgotten;
        make sweet
[2] melody,
[3]sing many songs, that thou mayest be remembered.
Is. 23:17 And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the LORD will visit Tyre,
        and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication
        with all the kingdoms of the world 
        upon the face of the earth.

Amos 5:23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy
[1] songs; for I will not hear the [1]melody of thy [1] viols.
He must have missed the meaning of the serpent in the garden of Eden

Patrick Mead Claims that: 
instruments DISAPPEARED from Christiang Worship.

Christ--the Rock--outlawed vocal or instrumental rejoicing for the Church of Christ in the wilderness. If you know that synagogue or ekklesia is a SCHOOL (only) of the WORD (only) you cannot even hallucinate using music when Jesus Christ comes to be out ONLY teacher when the elders "teach that which has been taught." If you don't know the meaning of synagogue then you probably cannot be a Christian (disciple) of Christ.

Patrick Mead he does not plan to use instruments, on Sunday but someday on Saturday: for everyone and not just the kids. 

That's the deceptive pattern: They always say that.  Sabbath worship marks the Sabazianism to which God abandoned Israel where instruments were used in the BURNT OFFERING of the goats when Christ in Isaiah 1 and Jeremiah 7 says God DID NOT COMMAND sacrifices or offerings. Therefore, to teach that God commanded the exorcism noise is to MARK the same fall from Grace as at Mount Sinai.

Repeating the NACC latest mantra Patrick Mead actualy said: God not only tolerated but COMMANDED worship with instrumental music,  and He loved noise.

If, as Rick Atchley claims "a" spirit told him that God COMMANDED INSTRUMENTAL PRAISE AND WE HAD BETTER NOT DISOBEY, then it IS TRUE: some spirit spoke.  Paul warned that when you tamper with the word or CORRUPT it by "selling learning at retail" God will send you strong delusions so you BELIEVE A LIE. The MARK is lying wonders which includes all of the PERFORMING arts Jesus called hypocrites by naming rhetoricians, singers and instrument players.

NOTE THAT THERE WAS NO SACRIFICIAL INSTRUMENTS IN THE LAW OF MOSES: The Monarchy with king, temple and sacrificial systems did NOT follow the Law or Prophets.

Commandment One by Clark: Moses had not appointed any musical instruments to be used in the divine worship; there was nothing of the kind under the first tabernacle.

The trumpets or horns then used were not for song nor for praise, but as we use bells, i.e., to give notice to the congregation of what they were called to perform, &c.

[They were specificially outlawed by God in Numbers 10:7 for the assembly of the whole congregaton which was only for instruction in a literal "synagogue."]

Commandment Two by Clark: But David did certainly introduce many instruments of music into God's worship, for which we have already seen he was solemnly reproved by the prophet Amos, Amos vi. 1-6.

Here, however, the author of this book states

he had the commandment of the prophet Nathan, and Gad the king's seer;
and this is stated to have been the commandment of the Lord by his prophets:
but the Syriac and Arabic give this a different turn-

"Hezekiah appointed the Levites in the house of the Lord, with instruments of music, and the sound of harps,
        and with the HYMNS of DAVID,
        and the
HYMNS of GAD, the king's prophet,
        and of [Hymns of] NATHAN, the
king's prophet:
                for David sang the praises of the Lord his God,
                as from the mouth of the prophets."

And king Solomon offered a sacrifice of twenty and two thousand oxen, and an hundred and twenty thousand sheep: so the king and all the people dedicated the house of God. 2 Chronicles 7:5

> And the priests waited on their offices: (Religious)
> the Levites also with instruments of musick of the Lord, which (Authorized for Civil-state)

David the king had made to praise the Lord,
because his mercy endureth for ever (To stop the plague!)

when David praised by their ministry; (Notice: not the congregation!)
and the
priests sounded trumpets before them,
all Israel stood (ordained to be present or stand fast). 2 Chronicles 7:6

[That would be Gad, the Stargazer. This is what the KJV says unless you wiggle a comma or two here or there which were NOT in the text, and you IGNORE the other parallel accounts attributing the INSTRUMENTS (never made music) to DAVID the KING and not worship leader."

That would also be close to 300 years after David: not much of a PATTERNISM for people who KNOW that they are planning to deliberately sow discord so that they can have the entertainment of always-gender confused PERFORMERS.

In Hezekiah's PLAGUE STOPPING EXORCISM as a political activity--he was a king--all of the atoning sacrifices had been made for Judah, the king, priests, city and temple--not the human spirit.

THEN he decided to burn some GOATS for Israel who had become the INSTRUMENTAL SECTARIANS of their time.
ONLY during this burnt offering did the Levites standing in RANKS as military made loud instrumental noise to signal the beginning and ending of the burning. His "unity" effort just caused Israel the Instrumental Sectarians to make fun of him.

But, we are warned about the LYING PEN OF THE SCRIBES when speaking of the temple. Christ is spirit spoke through the PROPHETS (only) and universally repudiated all of the instrumental noises as spiritual and literal prostitution.

Clark: the Hebrew text may be understood:

and it was by the order of David that so many instruments of music should be introduced into the Divine service.

But were it even evident, which it is not, either from this or any other place in the sacred writings, that instruments of music were prescribed by Divine authority under the law, could this be adduced with any semblance of reason, that they ought to be used in Christian worship?

No: the whole spirit, soul, and genius of the Christian religion are against this: and those who know the Church of God best, and what constitutes its genuine spiritual state,

know that these things have been introduced as a substitute for the life and power of religion; and that where they prevail most, there is least of the power of Christianity.

Away with such portentous baubles from the worship of that infinite Spirit who requires his followers to worship him in spirit and in truth, for to no such worship are those instruments friendly. See the texts in the margin; also the use of the trumpets in the sanctuary, Num. x. 2, &c., and the notes there.

Adam Clark, Methodist, speaking FOR ALL groups at that time.

When speaking of Babylonian Captivity CAUSED by musical idolatry Patrick says that:
"When separated from instruments, they were too mournful so they hung harps in the willows so GOD COULD PLAY THEM by blowing in the winds.



Therefore the prudent shall keep silence in that time; for it is an evil time. Amos 5:13

Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the Lord, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. Amos 5:14

Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the Lord God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph. Amos 5:15

Therefore the Lord, the God of hosts, the Lord, saith thus; Wailing shall be in all streets; and they shall say in all the highways, Alas alas! and they shall call the husbandman to mourning, and such as are skilful of lamentation to wailing. Amos 5:16

And in all vineyards shall be wailing: for I will pass through thee, saith the Lord. Amos 5:17
Woe unto you that
desire the day of the Lord to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light. Amos 5:18


THUS hath the Lord God shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit. Amos 8:1And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the Lord unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more. Amos 8:2

Keluwb (h3619) kel-oob'; from the same as 3611; a bird-trap (as furnished with a clap-stick or treadle to spring it); hence a basket (as resembling a wicker cage): - basket, cage.

As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich. Je.5:27

Keleb (h3611) keh'leb; from an unused root mean. to yelp, or else to attack; a dog; hence (by euphemism) a male prostitute: - dog.

For dogs have compassed me: the assembly [multitude, swarm] of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Ps.22:16

Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter. Is.56:11

And I will appoint over them four kinds, saith the Lord: the sword to slay, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy. Je.15:3

Amos 8:3 And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day
        saith the Lord GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence.

Amos 8:4 Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail,

Amos 8:10 And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation;
        and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head;
        and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the end thereof as a bitter day.
Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD,  
        that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water,
        but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Amos 8:12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east,
        they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.

Only the Levites were permitted to use musical instruments in the sacrificial system but NOT commanded by God: they were imposed as part of being turned over to worship the starry host.

Psalm 137 proves that the harps could not be played because the willow was a symbol of Orpheus (That Thracian inventer of IMpure Threskia).


John Chrysostom who had READ Acts 7 knew what almost no preacher knows or cares about.

Hence these same "customs" date their origin, hence the sacrifices:
..........they were themselves the first that made sacrifices to their idols!
..........For that is why it is marked,

Editor's Note 7: dia gar touto epishmainetai. The meaning is: Stephen was accused of speaking against "the customs,"-sacrifices, temple, feasts, etc. Therefore he significantly points to that critical conjuncture. from which these "customs" date their introduction: namely, the Provocation at Horeb.
Prior to that, he tells of "living oracles," life-giving precepts:
after it, and as its consequence, sacrifices, etc.,

those statutes which were not good, and ordinances by which a man shall not live, as God says by Ezekiel.

Not a word of sacrifice till then: and the first mention is, of the sacrifices offered to the calf. In like manner, "they rejoiced," "the people ate and drank, and rose up to play:" and in consequence of this, the feasts were prescribed: kai eufrainonto, fhsin: dia touto kai eortai.-'Epishmainetai might be rendered, "he marks," "puts a mark upon it" (so the innovator, who substitutes, touto kai Dauid epishmainomenoj legei): we take it passively, "there is a mark set over it-it is emphatically denoted." In the active, the verb taken intransitively means

"to betoken or announce itself," "make its first appearance."-

In the Treatise adv. Judaeos, iv. §6. tom. i. 624. C. St. Chrysostom gives this account of the legal sacrifices: "To what purpose unto Me is the multitude of your sacrifices? etc. (Isaiah i., 11, ff.)

Do ye hear how it is most plainly declared, that God did not from the first require these at your hands? Had He required them, He would have obliged those famous saints who were before the Law to observe this practice.

`Then wherefore has He permitted it now?

In condescension to your infirmity. As a physician in his treatment of a delirious patient, etc.: thus did God likewise. For seeing them so frantic in their lust for sacrifices, that they were ready, unless they got them, to desert to idols: nay not only ready, but that they had already deserted, thereupon He permitted sacrifices. And that this is the reason, is clear from the order of events.

After the feast which they made to the demons, then it was that He permitted sacrifices: all but saying: `Ye are mad, and will needs sacrifice: well then, at any rate sacrifice to Me. 0'"-(What follows may serve to illustrate the brief remark a little further on, Kai h aixmalwsia kathgoria thj kakiaj.)

"But even this, He did not permit to continue to the end, but by a most wise method, withdrew them from it ...

For He did not permit it to be done in any place of the whole world,

but in Jerusalem only. Anon, when for a short time
they had sacrificed, he destroyed the city.
Had He openly said, Desist, they, such was their insane passion for sacrificing, would not readily have complied. But now perforce, the place being taken away, He secretly withdrew them from their frenzy."
So here: "Even the captivity impeaches the wickedness (which was the cause of the permission of sacrifice.")

Patrick Mead claims that By the time of Jesus, the temple sacrifices had broken down and the offices went to the highest bidder. nothing like Moses so that they had to "worship" in the synagogues (like a default fall back?)

We have noted from Bible101a that Christ ordained the synagogue in the wilderness AFTER the nation fell into musical idolatry. That never ceased to exist and even in a more organized way after the Return from Babylon it NEVER had a praise service: A School of the Word of God only cannot TOLERATE music or musicians. Christ affirms the musical fall from Grace in the prophets.

Then, he intimates, they were FORCED to worship in the synagogues WITHOUT musical instruments because.
        Did not have the gold and money of the temple.
        Did not have instruments so how do farmers and clerks get together and worship?
        They could not afford or maintain the instruments.

Why, they continue to meet in the synagogue which HAD no musical instruments NOR did they "have a praise service." Even simple minded "farmers" know you don't make loud clanging noises in the Bible class!

The psallo or plucking sound or twang was FIRSTLY made by the bow which is thought to have been a musical instrument speaking from the gods.  The prophesiers--the world's OLDEST profession--used the sounds to conjur up the spirit just as the Witch of Endor used an old, empty wineskin as her familiar spirit.

A lyre was a few gut strings stretched over a flat board without a sound box: anyone could afford one if a cow died so that he could make a "lifeless instrument" or "carnal weapon."  

With the help of a deer, my dog we formed something even cave men made to perform MAGIC. David had a harp and he assuredly was not wealthy.  Jubal who handled the pipe "without authority" along with other musical instruments did not need to be rich.

Patrick Mead claims Psalms were always sung and at no time did God say I DO NOT LIKE INSTRUMENTS.
Well, yes He did MANY times if you remember that the Spirit OF Christ spoke through the Prophets all of who radically condemn music and make the instrument a MARK of those who say to God: "Shut your face." At least, that's what God thought when he "gave them kings in His anger and took them away in his anger."


I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies. Amos 5:21

Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts. Amos 5:22

Sacrifices were made mandatory only after Israel ROSE UP TO PLAY in musical idolatry. See the Summary by John Chrysostom to prove that sacrifice and temple were, like the law, added because of transgression.

Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols. Amos 5:23

John Calvin wrote:

For why is a woe pronounced upon the rich who have received their consolation? (Luke 6: 24,) who are full, who laugh now, who "lie upon beds of ivory and stretch themselves upon their couches;" "join house to house," and "lay field to field;" "and the harp and the viol, the tabret and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts," (Amos 6: 6; Isa. 5: 8, 10.)

Certainly ivory and gold, and riches, are the good creatures of God, permitted, nay destined, by divine providence for the use of man; nor was it ever forbidden to laugh, or to be full, or to add new to old and hereditary possessions, or to be delighted with music, or to drink wine.

This is true, but when the means are supplied to roll and wallow in luxury, to intoxicate the mind and soul with present and be always hunting after new pleasures,
........ is very far from a legitimate use of the gifts of God.

Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah. Isa 1:9

Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah. Isaiah 1:10

To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. Isaiah 1: 11

When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts? Isaiah 1: 12

That chant (scatter words, hum) to the sound of the viol, and invent to themselves instruments of musick, like David; Amos 6:5

A Psalm is a mizmor and only 57 of the mizmors are called Psalms in the Greek.  7 of these are limited to ceremonial functions and Levites: the other 50 which the Jews chanted when they quit chanting the PROSE version are not instrumental.

A psalm like a song does not include an instrument: you can read, recite, sing or use an instrument. The Bible NEVER uses the word without defining the name of the instrument to be PLUCKED.

NOTING that God never runs away from instruments, Patrick asks:

Patrick Mead: Why did the early church not CONTINUE to use instruments.

Well, no Jews ever sang with instrumental music as worship: slaughtering animals in the dung pit is never called worship.  The synagogue "had no praise service" by direct command and decent obedience. No Christian would have ever experienced singing with instruments because they could not enter into the slaughter pen. Not even the Levitical Warrior Musician could enter into the Holy Places without getting executed for his arrognce and presumption.

Because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai, God turned the nation over to worship the starry host. And that is what they wordshipped at the Temple which was not a church house but a ziggurat: a tower of Babylon.

Christ ordained the Qahal, Synagogue or Church of Christ in the wilderness:

It was INCLUSIVE of Rest, reading and researshing the Word: God never calls the populace into assembly except for instruction.
It was EXCLUSIVE of vocal or instrumental rejoicing: knowing the meaning of a Disciple and reverence would never do otherwise.

Patrick claims that they--like us--were traditionalists and just HATED to use instruments because they might loose some "members"--and boast about it, too  However, most of the people, like the Athenians always hung around places like the Agora or Market-Places -- to which Jesus consigned the pipers, singers and dancers -- because that was like the local gossip center:
Acts 17:21 (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)

Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

Acts 17:25 Neither is worshipped with mens hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

There would have been singers, pipers and dancers who were called PARASITES: history notes that they might get "tarred and feathered" because decent society would not tolerate them

Next, Patrick notes that: Church was not culturally accepted (synagogues) and could not make noise when being HUNTED.

A faithful church will NEVER be culturally accepted.  The early churches often met in the forums: in Athens the Ekklesia was up on a hill far removed from the marketplace.  The Ekklesia was a place provided by the ruler for any lawful assembly. The church met in these forums or in real synagogues.  If there had been instruments in the synagogue some one would have told us.  Athens was a place open to any and all religions.

Patrick Mead says: they Wanted to make a hard, sharp break with the Jews (but Jews never used instruments in synagogue)
Didn't Paul meet in many synagogues? Was there ever any hint of singing OR playing instruments.?Jesus condemned the Scribes and Pharisees as hypocrites. He pointed to Isaiah and Ezekiel 33 where a hypocrite is a rhetorican in the usual preaching sense, singers and players of instruments. Furthermore, all of the Greek literature identifies performance preaching along with singers and instrumen players as hypocrites.  John calls them SORCERERS in Revelation 18 who HAD DECEIVED THE WHOLE WORLD. Therefore, the PATTERN of the synagogue can ever be debated:
Luke 4:44 And he preached in the synagogues of Galilee.

Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city
        them that preach him,  

        being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.  

Now, in the AGORA or MARKETPLACE there would always be pagan worship, singers, instrument players, dancers, meat markets and veggie stands for everyone, stump preachers and even prostitutes. The ekklesia (church) was SEPARATED from the public spectacle. Therefore, if the Christians had met in the marketplace to sing and play instruments they could have attracted the masses.

Acts 17:1 NOW when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, 
        they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews

And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, 
        and three sabbath days

        reasoned with them out of the scriptures, Acts 17:2

That is the ONLY thing you do in a synagogue or school of the Bible.

Dialegomai (g1256) dee-al-eg'-om-ahee; mid. from 1223 and 3004; to say thoroughly, i.e. discuss (in argument or exhortation): - dispute, preach (unto), reason (with), speak.

The speaking of the LOGOS means "the opposite of poetry OR music" which was reserved for the myth makers who were not allowed to write history but history as it MIGHT HAVE BEEN.

Eph 5:19a Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, 

Loquor I. inf. loquier, Naev. ap. Gell. 1, 24, 2), v. dep. n. and a. [Sanscr. lap-, to talk, whisper;

Logik-os, ( [logos]  
A. of or for speaking or speech, merê l. the organs of speech, Plu.Cor.38: logikê, hê, speech, opposite to mousikê,   

The Christians continued a Christian Synagogue: when the Jewish synagogue "had no praise service" but was a school of the Bible, why would a Christian synagogue ADD music to sow discord:

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread,

Sunago (g4863) soon-ag'-o; from 4862 and 71; to lead together, i.e. collect or convene; spec. to entertain (hospitably): - / accompany, assemble (selves, together), bestow, come together, gather (selves together, up, together), lead into, resort, take in.
Patrick Mead: The Jews were even Going to Rome to persecute Christians. Jews as problems.  But, as  soon as they got protection the Christians persecuted Jews.

Because there was NEVER any "praise service" in the synagogue from the wilderness until ad 1815 they would have NO OCCASION to think that literate and reverent synagogue attenders would "make music" which was always the mark of warriors or perverts.

Because the Christians were always doing queer things, murder or holocaust, Patrick thinks that NOT using instruments was a way to make the Jews less than human. All of those who OPPOSED musical instruments are degraded in the worst kind of judgmentalism. Would it be more good "mental health" to find ANYONE defending instrumental music for the church and NOT making it a mark of pagan, polluted religionism where ON THE CONTRARY it is always the mark of religious prostitution including homosexual.

Euripides, in his Bacchae (Click for), citing the Lydian usages at the same time with those of Phrygia, because of their similarity:

But ye who left Mt. Tmolus, fortress of Lydia,
revel-band of mine, euripides
women whom I brought from the land of barbarians

as my assistants and travelling companions,
uplift the tambourines native to Phrygian cities,
inventions of mine and
mother Rhea. [Zoe]

"giving himself excessive airs of daintiness and indulging in all sorts of effeminacy;
darting his eyes about;
throwing his hands hither and thither, 
        and raving (
Tatian to the Greeks, Ante-Nicene, Vol. II, p. 75).

"Apollo at Delphi had to pay for the guilt of slaying the powers of the underworld which have their own rights.

Then there are the methods of introduction through psychological means.
is brought about by a change of light and darkness, by ascetic fasting, by incense, sounds, music, etc." (Tillich, Paul, A History of Christian Thought, Touchstone, p. 14).

The sunago was where Paul outlawed DIVERSITY OF DIALOG: it was the home of the Orphics and Dionysiacs who BOTH depended heavily on mind altering music. That is why Paul outlawed SELF pleasure in Romans 15 and commanded speaking with "one MIND and one MOUTH that which was written" as the only way to praise or glorify God.

Because NONE of the Jews either played instruments in synagogue nor "did the synagogue ever have a praise service" I suppose the Jews did not MUSICATE because they were just TRATITIONALISTS. Well, they followed the "tradition" laid down for the Qahal, synagogue or church in the wilderness which outlawed either vocal or instrumental rejoicing or MAKING A LOUD NOISE. For goodness sake, who needs a law NOT to make noise in the schoool of the Bible.

Next, Patrick Mead looks at what the historical writers said AGAINST the use of instruments. The rejected instruments because they were QUEER, murderers or just plain evil and the RESTORATION movement caught its evil from them: 

Patrick Mead: Early writers said that is the reason [being like the Jews]. 
Music not considered suitable for Christian Worshp. Therefore, the Christians opposed JEWISH worship music.
The fact is that NONE of the Bible is metrical so that no one ever sung with or without instruments in the synagogue or church where the direct command in Romans 15 is to use ONE MIND and ONE MOUTH (unison) speaking "that which is written for our LEARNING." A Christian is a DISCIPLE and a disciple goes to Bible class and not to a pagan worship service.

When God the Father "breathed" spirit it caused Jesus Christ the SON to speak the VERY WORDS of God without METER so the word often means.

But the Spirit OF Christ had outlawed vocal and instrumental rejoicing when the assembly was called which was only for instruction. The synagogue was for the citizens while the Temple had been abandoned to the "worship of the starry host" (Acts 7 etc.)  Therefore, to want to RESTORE the sacrificial NOISE which is never called music is a lust to restore the pagan (Babylonian) system prophesied to pop up about now.

Most Synagogues never adopted singing or instruments in order not to CHRISTIANIZE.  The word is CANTILLATION which is an elevated, accented form of speech.  It was not musical because none of the Bible is metrical in a tuneful way.  The first division happened in 1815 when the first organ went into a reformed (liberal) synagogue. This divided the synagogue and resulted in a lawsuit.                       

Patrick Mead: Thomas Aquinas: does not use that she might not seem to Judaize. 
AQUINAS "Our church does not use musical instruments, as harps and psalteries, to praise God withal, that she may not seem to Judaize." (Thomas Aquinas, Bingham's Antiquities, Vol. 3, page 137)
But, because almost no one looks at the resources they do not know that Thomas Aquinas never said that. Therefore, to brand Aquinas as a JEW HATER is to slander him.

But, to say that WE have no civil, decent reason for rejecting instruments because of that quote of of a slandered man proves that the preacher has never read Augustine at any level.  However, thanks for the quote because this proves that none of the churches used instruments.

Contrary to the common NACC statement that the church CEASED to use instrumental music (without authority) we might look again at this quote to prove that NO ONE--including the Jews had ever used instruments in the Sabbath day synagogue.

Thomas Aquinas, A.D. 1250, has these remarkable words: 'Our church does NOT use musical instruments, as harps and psalteries, to praise God withal, that she may not seem to Judaize.'

No Jew ever sang with or without instruments until the year ad 815. A liberal Jew tried to impose an organ on a congregation. Back when men were ethical, it was decided that the rabbi could not STEAL the property but had to build his on synagogue.
No Godly Jew ever participated in the instrumental noise which was called exorcism: blowing 120 ram's horns all tuned to the same single note is NOT call music but a loud, terrorizing noise to chase the evil demons away.

We noted above that this is not the truth.  However, from the OBJECTIONS he had to respond to:

From this passage we are surely warranted in concluding that there was no ecclesiastical use of organs in the time of Aquinas. It is alleged that Marinus Sanutus, who lived about A.D. 1200, was the first that brought the use of wind organs into churches, and hence, he received the name Torcellus. In the East the organ was in use in the emperor's courts, probably from the time of Julian, but never was either the organ or any other instruments been employed in public worship in Eastern churches; nor is mention of instrumental music found in all their liturgies, ancient or modern." (McClintock and Strong's Cyclopedia, Vol. 8, p. 739).

Patrick should also understand that the Catholics NEVER did worship with 'congregational singing and organ accompaniment' and neither did the Jews. The organs were put in by civil leaders and were used by the composers and monks. It was not until after that organ that they began "fiddling" around with the organ keys and BEGAN to discover elementary HARMONY.   The early organs could not be used for accompaniment and the church had no psalms or chants in metrical form. Therefore, they were used for preludes, intermissions and recessional. There was no congregational singing.


Davison (Hast., "Dict. of the Bible", s. v.) writes: "though metre is not discernible in the Psalms, it does not follow that rhythm is excluded". This rhythm, however, "defies analysis and systematization". Driver ("Introd. to Lit. of O. T.", New York, 1892, 339) admits in Hebrew poetry "no metre in the strict sense of the term". Exegetes who find metre in the Psalms are of four schools, according as they explain Hebrew metre by quantity, by the number of syllables, by accent, or by both quantity and accent.
(from The Catholic Encyclopedia)

Melody as tunefulness belongs to the 19th century: therefore NO ONE can claim that Paul commanded musical melody.

Up to the Edict of Milan (AD 313), the psalms were interspersed with lessons.

By the time of Gregory I (circa 600), the Mass and Office had assumed a fixed shape and antiphonal psalmody (the chanting of a psalm alternately by two choirs) and responsorial psalmody (when the congregation responded to a psalm sung by a cantor) were institutionalized.The distinction between these types later faded.

The Catholics had not FALLEN into the Apostasy of the 19th Century protestants.
        Because they knew that the command was to us the Biblical text
        Because Paul's SPEAK is the opposite of poetry or music.

It was a century after Zwingli that Calvin permitted some psalms to be radically REWRITTEN to make singing possible. At first that was the Text only and consistent with Romans 15 it was UNISON ONLY.  Only later did a simple melody develop with parts.

Therefore, people deliberately lie when they accuse the Churches of Christ with sowing discord by REMOVING instruments.

In the 16th century, Protestant churches encouraged congregational psalm singing by adopting metrical versions in the vernacular. An important early translation was Clèment Marot's, the basis of the Calvinist psalter. A repertory of tunes came into being; these were set in a simple chordal style in collections which included Loys Bourgeois's complete psalter (1563), widely recognized as a standard version. Some later settings were more contrapuntal; Le Jeune and others dropped the tunes and composed what amounted to free motets. You may as the Real Thomas Aquinas to stand up at this posted paper.

You must be aware that SINGING as an act was not added until the year 373 and then from the Syriac churches.  After the Reformation, Erasmus opposed SINGING but Calvin later allowed the Psalms to be REWRITTEN to make singing even POSSIBLE.

Objection 1. It would seem that God should not be praised with the lips. The Philosopher says (Philo, Ethic. 1,12): "The best of men are accorded not praise, but something greater." But God transcends the very best of all things. Therefore God ought to be given, not praise, but something greater than praise: wherefore He is said (Sirach 43:33) to be "above all praise."

Thomas Aquinas: Reply to Objection 1. We may speak of God in two ways

First, with regard to His essence; and thus,since He is incomprehensible and ineffable, He is above all praise. 

On this respect we owe Him reverence and the honor of latria; wherefore Ps. 64:2 is rendered by Jerome in his Psalter [Translated from the Hebrew]: "Praise to Thee is speechless, O God," as regards the first, and as to the second, "A vow shall be paid to Thee."

Objection 2. Further, divine praise is part of divine worship, for it is an act of religion.

Now God is worshiped with the mind rather than with the lips: wherefore our Lord quoted against certain ones the words of Is. 29:13, "This people . . . honors [Vulg.: 'glorifies'] Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me." Therefore the praise of God lies in the heart rather than on the lips.

Thomas Aquinas: Reply to Objection 2. It profits one nothing to praise with the lips if one praise not with the heart.

For the heart speaks God's praises when it fervently recalls
"the glorious things of His works"
[Cf. Sirach 17:7,8. 

Yet the outward praise of the lips avails to arouse the inward fervor of those who praise, and to incite others to praise God, as stated above.

Sirach 17:6. He made for them tongue and eyes; he gave them ears and a mind for thinking.

Sirach 17:7. He filled them with knowledge and understanding, and showed them good and evil.

Sirach 17:8. He set his eye upon their hearts to show them the majesty of his works.

Sirach 17:10. And they will praise his holy name, to proclaim the grandeur of his works.

We praise God with the FRUIT OF THE LIPS and God supplies the FRUIT (Isa 57) You cannot praise God with self-composed songs and instruments which everyone knows that means that YOU want to be worshipped. 

Isa. 57:19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.

Another Paper on Aquinas:

Objection 3. Further, the praise of God is competent to little and great, according to Apoc. 14, "Give praise to our God, all ye His servants; and you that fear Him, little and great." But the great, who are in the church, ought not to sing: for Gregory says (Regist. iv, ep. 44):

"I hereby ordain that in this See the ministers of the sacred altar must not sing" (Cf. Decret., dist. xcii., cap. On sancta Romana Ecclesia). Therefore singing is unsuitable to the divine praises.

Thomas Aquinas: Reply to Objection 3. To arouse men to devotion by teaching and preaching is a more excellent way than by singing.

Wherefore deacons and prelates,
        whom it becomes to incite men's minds towards God by means of
preaching and teaching,
        ought not
to be instant in singing,
lest thereby they be withdrawn from greater things.

Hence Gregory says (Regist. iv, ep. 44): on praise songs

"It is a most discreditable custom for those who have been raised to the diaconate

to serve as choristers, for it behooves them to give their whole time to the duty of preaching and to taking charge of the alms."

Rather than a hate monger against the Jews, Aquinas knew basics 101aaa and does not make but refutes that quote.

Objection 4. Further, in the Old Law God was praised with musical instruments and human song, according to Ps. 32:2,3: "Give praise to the Lord on the harp, sing to Him with the psaltery, the instrument of ten strings. Sing to Him a new canticle." But the Church does not make use of musical instruments such as harps and psalteries, in the divine praises, for fear of seeming to imitate the Jews. Therefore in like manner neither should song be used in the divine praises.

No! Thomas Aquinas did not define theology by hatred for the Jews! Just common, minimal common sense and reverence when Jesus is our Teacher.

Thomas Aquinas: Reply to Objection 4. As the Philosopher says

(Politics viii, 6), "Teaching should not be accompanied with a flute or any artificial instrument such as the harp or anything else of this kind: but only with such things as make good hearers." 

For such like musical instruments move the soul to pleasure rather than create a good disposition within it.

On the Old Testament instruments of this description were employed, both because the people were more coarse and carnal--so that they needed to be aroused by such instruments as also by earthly promises--

and because these material instruments were figures of something else.

Aristotle which Aquinas had read notes:  (Politics viii, 6)

"And it is also clear from these considerations what sort of instruments they should use. Flutes must not be introduced into education, nor any other professional instrument, such as the harp or any other of that sort,

but such instruments as will make them attentive pupils either at their musical training or in their other lessons. Moreover the flute is not a moralizing but rather an exciting influence, so that it ought to be used for occasions of the kind at which attendance has the effect of purification (charismatic ecstasy) rather than instruction.

And let us add that the flute happens to possess the additional property telling against its use in education that playing it prevents the employment of speech.

Purification was the musical prophesying or "lord lord saying" Jesus denounces. Consistent with ALL arousal singing and instruments the purpose of the DEMAGOGUE "who appeased the mases with the performing arts" the purpose was to drive them into a mental state and TELL them that they were in the presence of the gods (demons).


Patrick Mead accuses John Knox of being a murder and then, paraphrasing, claims that Knox influenced the Campbells and you know that "Alexander Campbell called the Catholics the whore of Rome." That logical conclusion means that the Campbells had NO THEOLOGICAL reasons for rejecting instruments nor did anyone else.  Furthermore, he lumps in the Mormons!

The Catholic church at that time could never use instruments in the Pope's presence when the only official mass was held in the sistine chapel.  No, this is not a logical conclusion: the Campbells as Presbyterians had never in their history used instruments.  The Campbells were Bible literate and knew very well that:

Church was A School of Christ
Worship was reading and musing the Word of God.

The Campbells knew that to be the ONLY function of the assembly.

Well, many early theologians concluded that Rome was BABYLON and therefore the Mother of Harlots (Rev 17) who is MARKED by using "lusted after fruits" as performance preachers, singers and musicians. Because the Mormons also called the Catholics the whore of Rome, that means that you can DISCOUNT what Alexander said about instrumental music--not to be aware that all of the church Fathers we would call "Catholic" also repudiated instrumental music when they discussed the Old Testament and knew that music fits the church just like naked dancing.

John Knox, killed the Queen's secretary, guess what he thought?  
John Knox lived:
b. c. 1514,near Haddington, Lothian, Scotland
d. Nov. 24, 1572, Edinburgh
There is no evidence that Knox ordered or participated in or killed the Queen's secretary.  He attributed it to the nature of tyrants who burned protestants at the stake.
"On May 29, 1546, party of sixteen young gentlemen broke into St. Andrews Castle, after killing the sentry at the gate, and stabbed Cardinal Beaton to death.

Whether he actually approved of the means by which these "works of God" were carried out can only be inferred by the fact that he never wrote a disapproving word of the deed.

Because of his ties with Wishart, he considered himself in danger and resolved to leave Scotland, but Cockburn of Ormiston, whose sons John Knox was tutoring, convinced him to enter the castle of St. Andrews as a place of safety

I am aware that John Knox only called the organ a "chist of whistles." Well, what about the Baptists and the Methodists and everyone else who agreed.  Were they all evil men just because they rejected "machines for doing hard word"?
"John Knox called for the church to be purified of what he called "a popish corruption" and urged the restoration of "the plain singing of psalms unaccompanied by instrumental music." Charles Spurgeon urged that all organ pipes in church buildings be compactly filled with concrete." Adam Clarke in his classic Commentary speaks movingly of his own opposition to it and describes the opposition of his friend and teacher, John Wesley, who urged that instruments of music neither be seen or heard in Methodist churches. (Vol. 4, p. 684.) All the great reformers were agreed: Returning to Biblical Christianity meant rejecting instrumental music!

Why isn't that a good theological reason since Paul commanded that we NOT self pleasure but speak or "sing that which is written with one MIND and one MOUTH." Is that a direct command or what?
They all also called for CONGREGATONA SINGING of the Biblical Psalms because the purpose is to teach and admonish one another. Were they evil, murderous perverts?

Knox, like all church historicians also wrote that you need Biblical AUTHORITY and not SILENCE to change.

John Knox: foremost leader of the Scottish Reformation, who set the austere moral tone of the Church of Scotland and shaped the democratic form of government it adopted.

"Why may not the church, for good causes, devise ceremonies to decor the sacraments, and others [of] God's services?"

Knox replied, "Because the kirk ought to do nothing but in faith: and ought not to go before, but is bound to follow the voice of the true Pastor." Later during the exchange, Knox added:

"It is not enough that man invents a ceremony, and then gives it a signification, according to his pleasure.

But if anything proceeds from faith, it must have the word of God for the assurance; for you are not ignorant that "faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

Now, if you will prove that your ceremonies proceed from faith, and do please God, you must prove that God in expressed words has commanded them; or else you shall never prove that they proceed from faith, nor yet that they please God; but they are sin, and do displease him, according to the words of the apostle, "Whatsoever is not of faith is sin." John Knox, Works, 1:195-96.
Knox and EVERYONE else said that you needed commands in order to ADD or DO something or you could not be driven by FAITH and are nor following Christ.  That was close to 300 years before Alexander Campbell.  The instrumentalist discords claim that SILENCE gives them the authority to ADD something and that BECOMES the authority of Christ.  So says the Christian Church according to H. Leo Boles.
[THE FIRST SYLLOGISM] Against the mass, Knox wrote:

The Mass is Idolatry.

A. All worshipping, honouring, or service invented by the brain of man in the religion of God, without his own express commandment, is idolatry.

B. The Mass is invented by the brain of man, without any commandment of God;

C. therefore it is idolatry.

Patrick Mead: quotes some Clement and notes that Clement thought that man's body is the most beautiful instrument and thought that women were evil. Mead jokes (laugh, laugh) that maybe Clement had a homosexuality problem

To the usual contrary, professional musicians or speakers have FORCED their way into polite society when Jesus would have "cast out the musical minstrels" like dung:

"Of particular interest is the way that early modern playwrights, music theorists, and theater apologists addressed this conflated language of the "enemy," by echoing the same connections between sexuality and playing found in the most virulent antitheatrical tracts. As this paper will demonstrate, by "playing" with the conflated language, these writers defended their art,

justifying their existence in a society that was both seduced and repulsed by them. By claiming the polemical antitheatrical language, these players escaped from the ideological margins to which their opponents had tried to relegate them.

Using the artifices of mimesis (imitation) and comedy they pointed out and
defused their opponents' anxieties about music, theater, and sexuality, creating a space for players in the cultural mainstream." Resource

Aristotle Poetics Epic poetry, then, and the poetry of tragic drama, and, moreover, comedy and dithyrambic poetry, and most flute-playing and harp-playing, these, speaking generally, may all be said to be "representations of life."
2 The explanation of mimêsis, as Aristotle uses the word, demands a treatise; all that a footnote can say is this:--Life "presents" to the artist the phenomena of sense, which the artist "re-presents" in his own medium, giving coherence, designing a pattern. That this is true not only of drama and fiction but also of instrumental music ("most flute-playing and harp-playing") was more obvious to a Greek than to us, since Greek instrumental music was more definitely imitative. The technical display of the virtuoso Plato describes as "a beastly noise."
Here is some of what Clement said as he always associates MUSICIANS with the queer folk:
And this deathless strain,-the support of the whole and the harmony of all,-reaching from the centre to the circumference, and from the extremities to the central part, has harmonized this universal frame of things,
not according to the Thracian music, which is like that invented by Jubal, but according to the paternal counsel of God, which fired the zeal of David.
And He who is of David, and yet before him, the Word of God, despising the lyre and harp, which are but lifeless instruments, (For Paul on lifeless instruments see 1 Corinthians 14)

and having tuned by the Holy Spirit the universe, and especially man,-who, composed of body and soul, is a universe in miniature, makes melody to God on this instrument of many tones; and to this instrument-I mean man-he sings accordant:

"For thou art my harp, and pipe, and temple. (Probably a quotation from a hymn. ) -a harp for harmony-a pipe by reason of the Spirit-a temple by reason of the word; so that the first may sound, the second breathe, the third contain the Lord.

And David the king, the harper whom we mentioned a little above, who exhorted to the truth and dissuaded from idols, was so far from celebrating demons in song, that in reality they were driven away by his music. Thus, when Saul was plagued with a demon, he cured him by merely playing.

A beautiful breathing instrument (Psalm 150 only instruments with BREATH can praise) of music the Lord made man,
after His own image. And He Himself also, surely, who is the supramundane Wisdom, the celestial Word, is the all-harmonious, melodious, holy instrument of God.
Do the people in Rochester thereby believe--as the Dionysus people hoped when they piped trying to make him sing and dance--that Jesus was ALSO a queer? I am certain that the new erotic praise songs think a lot about making love to Jesus: even dance with him.
What, then, does this instrument-the Word of God, the Lord, the New Song-desire?

To open the eyes of the blind, and unstop the ears of the deaf, and to lead the lame or the erring to righteousness, to exhibit God to the foolish, to put a stop to corruption, to conquer death, to reconcile disobedient children to their father.

The instrument of God loves mankind.
The Lord pities, instructs, exhorts, admonishes, saves, shields, and of His bounty promises us the kingdom of heaven as a reward for learning; and the only advantage He reaps is, that we are saved. For wickedness feeds on men's destruction; but truth, like the bee, harming nothing, delights only in the salvation of men.

Earlier, Clement spoke of those Jesus called HYPOCRITES:

And so Cithaeron, and Helicon, and the mountains of the Odrysi, and the initiatory rites of the Thracians, mysteries of deceit, are hallowed and celebrated in hymns. For me, I am pained at such calamities as form the subjects of tragedy, though but myths; but by you the records of miseries are turned into dramatic compositions

But the dramas and the raving poets, now quite intoxicated,
let us crown with ivy; and distracted outright as they are,
in Bacchic fashion, with the satyrs, and the frenzied rabble,
and the rest of the demon crew, let us confine
to Cithaeron and Helicon, now antiquated. 

But let us bring from above out of heaven, Truth, with Wisdom in all its brightness, and the sacred prophetic choir, down to the holy mount of God; and let Truth, darting her light to the most distant points, cast her rays all around on those that are involved in darkness, and deliver men from delusion, stretching out her very strong right hand, which is wisdom, for their salvation.

To me, therefore, that Thracian Orpheus, that Theban, and that Methymnaean,-men, and yet unworthy of the name,-seem to have been deceivers, who, under the pretence of poetry corrupting human life, possessed by a spirit of artful sorcery for purposes of destruction, celebrating crimes in their orgies, and making human woes the materials of religious worship, were the first to entice men to idols;

nay, to build up the stupidity of the nations with blocks of wood and stone,-that is, statues and images,-subjecting to the yoke of extremest bondage the truly noble freedom of those who lived as free citizens under heaven
        by their songs and incantations.

John in Revelation 17 identified the Mother of Harlots. In chapter 18 she uses the "lusted after fruits" as rhetorical speakers, singers and instrument pllayers as SORCERERS.  Amos wrote a parallel where the "baskets of summer FRUITS" were the Dogs or Catamites.

Clement: Hercules, the son of Zeus-a true son of Zeus-was the offspring of that long night, who with hard toil accomplished the twelve labours in a long time, but in one night deflowered the fifty daughters of Thestius, and thus was at once the debaucher and the bridegroom of so many virgins.

It is not, then, without reason that the poets call him a cruel wretch and a nefarious scoundrel. It were tedious to recount his adulteries of all sorts, and debauching of boys. For your gods did not even abstain from boys, one having loved Hylas, another Hyacinthus, another Pelops, another Chrysippus, and another Ganymede.

He was honored in the Jerusalem Temple as part of the Abomination of Desolation as young men had to "wear the hat of Hermes" which made them into a virtual phallic symbol. They dared to go into the Holy Places as singers and prostitutes. See 2 Maccabees.

More review of sermon #2 to follow

Musical Worship Index--universally condemned.

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