Speaking of the Sun Rubel Shelly Notes: If a symbol or event can be baptized in or colored with Christian connotation, we would be dishonoring God and cheating ourselves by failing to do so.
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Now, the play: next the Movie? Here are some confirming comments about Cosmic Christmas among the Baptists:Here is an account:
An e-mail to me: not an urban legend."My family and I just returned from Cosmic Christmas at a Baptist Church in Grandbury. I thank you for your insights on Christ being here before the world was.
"I went right to my bible when we returned home and read my daughter the book of John.
"I wanted her to be sure and know that was someones imagination not the real story.
"Max Lucado I hope is being aproached by christians who are telling him of the line he is walking."I don't know where to begin with what made the COSMIC CHRISTMAS disturbing. I was mostly concerned for the young eyes who may believe this to be true.
"I wished they weren't even there.
"It was like your article, Jesus was a light around Gods neck and the angel Gaberial had to get it past Satan to earth.
"I had heard about it through KVTT 91.7 radio. I listen to Tom Dooley in the morning. It's playing again at the Pantigo Bible Church of Arlington. You may have to call the radio station to find out for sure.
"My daughter was frightened of the demons. They surrounded a CART Mary was in on the way to Bethelem. I don't know what happened to her and Josephs' donkey. There was a BATTLE with the angles there, If I'd known what it was like before, if someone would have seen it first I wouldn't have gone.
"Max Lucado Is scary to me now. Sorry to take up so much time.
"You read the book of Job chapter 37&38."You are correct in saying in the show that part of God offering his hand to Satan, was by far the most scary part.
"It totally pulled your insides because you felt it questioning our Father. That was a part where my daughter had her head burried under my arm, and I should have known to leave then. They say what if there was a battle in heaven, I say who are we to question or change Gods word. I love the book of Job. Actually I love the words of the bible whole heartedly.
"I wonder why when you go to church, they don't read longer passages to let Gods word speak for itself. You may use anything I've told you but yes I'd like you to leave my name off Thank you."
Some of this is repeated as more specific Baptizing Santa and the S.U.N.
Review of Dr. Rubel Shelly: The Day Santa Claus Was Baptized
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"Rubel Shelly: And when I tell you that Santa has been
baptized, I'm
echoing the ancient Christian tradition of what one
theologian dubbed "baptizing the traditions of secular
holidays in
the message of God's love that has been revealed in Jesus
Christ." Since the time of Emperor Constantine's
conversion to
Christ and his order to "Christianize" the pagan
feasts,
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The Myth of the Magi and the Child of Wondrous Light Britannica Members OnlineThe legend of the Magi-Kings was embellished in apocryphal books and Christian folklore. The Protogospel of James and the Chronicle of Zuqnin describe the birth of the Saviour.
Like the god Mithra, the divine child is consubstantial with celestial light and was born in a mountain cave on December 25. Such imagery of the Nativity of Christ and the symbolism of the royal visitors may originally have descended from Iranian accounts of the birth of the cosmic saviour, for the accounts seem to owe a great deal to Iranian theologies of light.
But the themes have been recast in Christian terms. The Opus imperfectum in Matthaeum relates that 12 Magi-Kings lived near the Mountain of Victories, which they climbed every year in the hope of finding the messiah in a cave on the mountaintop. Each year they entered the cave and prayed for three days, waiting for the promised star to appear.
Adam had revealed this location and the secret promises to his son Seth. Seth transmitted the mysteries to his sons, who passed the information from generation to generation. Eventually the Magi, sons of kings, entered the cave to find a star of unspeakable brightness, glowing more than many suns together. The star and its bright light led to, or became, the Holy Child, the son of the Light, who redeems the world.
However, the Biblical Example proves that the stargazers and sun and planet worshipers bowed before Lord Jesus Christ. This is to prove that none of the addiction to worshiping super stars and "wandering planets" was true.
Click to see Quotations from "Max Lucado's Cosmic Christmas" Comments fitting with the Lucifer connection. Max also uses scripture to fit the need.
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Chapter XXX.-Doctrines of the Ophites and Sethians.1. Others, again, portentously declare that there exists, in the power of Bythus, a certain primary light, blessed, incorruptible, and infinite: this is the Father of all, and is styled the first man.
They also maintain that his Ennoea, going forth from him, produced a son, and that this is the son of man-the second man. Below these, again, is the Holy Spirit, and under this superior spirit the elements were separated from each other, viz., water, darkness, the abyss, chaos, above which they declare the Spirit was borne, calling him the first woman.
Afterwards, they maintain, the first man, with his son, delighting over the beauty of the Spirit-that is,
of the woman-and shedding light upon her,
begat by her an incorruptible light, the third male, whom they call Christ,-the son of the first and second man,
........ and of the Holy Spirit, the first woman.2. The father and son thus both had intercourse with the woman (whom they also call the mother of the living). When, however, she could not bear nor receive into herself the greatness of the lights,
they declare that she was filled to repletion, and became ebullient on the left side;
and that thus their only son Christ, as belonging to the right side, and ever tending to what was higher,
was immediately caught up with his mother to form an incorruptible Aeon. This constitutes the true and holy Church, which has become the appellation, the meeting together, and the union of the father of all, of the first man, of the son, of the second man, of Christ their son, and of the woman who has been mentioned.3. They teach, however, that the power which proceeded from the woman by ebullition, being besprinkled with light, fell downward from the place occupied by its progenitors, yet possessing by its own will that besprinkling of light; and it they call Sinistra, Prunicus, and Sophia, as well as masculo-feminine.
Tertullian: Tertullian: Chapter XXIII.-Simeon's "Sign that Should Be Contradicted," Applied to the Heretical Gainsaying of the True Birth of Christ. One of the Heretics' Paradoxes Turned in Support of Catholic Truth.
We acknowledge, however, that the prophetic declaration of Simeon is fulfilled, which he spoke over the recently-born Saviour: "Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel, and for a sign that shall be spoken against." The sign (here meant) is that of the birth of Christ, according to Isaiah: "Therefore the Lord Himself shall give you a sign: behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son." We discover, then, what the sign is which is to be spoken against-the conception and the parturition of the Virgin Mary, concerning which these sophists say: "She a virgin and yet not a virgin bare, and yet did not bear; "just as if such language, if indeed it must be uttered, would not be more suitable even for ourselves to use!
For "she bare," because she produced offspring of her own flesh and "yet she did not bear," since she produced Him not from a husband's seed; she was "a virgin," so far as (abstinence) from a husband went, and "yet not a virgin," as regards her bearing a child.
There is not, however, that parity of reasoning which the heretics affect: in other words it does not follow that for the reason "she did not bear," she who was "not a virgin" was "yet a virgin," even because she became a mother without any fruit of her own womb.
But with us there is no equivocation, nothing twisted into a double sense. Light is light; and darkness, darkness; yea is yea; and nay, nay; "whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."
In His Appendix:Valentinus the heretic, moreover, introduced many fables
Afterwards, again, followed Saturninus: he, too, affirming that the innascible Virtue, that is God, abides in the highest regions, and that those regions are infinite, and in the regions immediately above us; but that angels far removed from Him made the lower world;
and that, because light from above had flashed refulgently in the lower regions, the angels had carefully tried to form man after the similitude of that light;
that man lay crawling on the surface of the earth; that this light and this higher virtue was, thanks to mercy, the salvable spark in man, while all the rest of him perishes;
that Christ had not existed in a bodily substance,
and had endured a quasi-passion in a phantasmal shape merely; that a resurrection of the flesh there will by no means be.
Afterwards broke out the heretic Basilides. He affirms that there is a supreme Deity, by name Abraxas, by whom was created Mind, which in Greek he calls Nous; that thence sprang the Word; that of Him issued Providence, Virtue, and Wisdom;
that out of these subsequently were made Principalities, powers, and Angels; that there ensued infinite issues and processions of angels; that by these angels heavens were formed, and the world, in honour of Abraxas, whose name, if computed, has in itself this number.
Now, among the last of the angels, those who made this world,
........ he places the God of the Jews latest, that is, the God of the Law and of the Prophets,
........ whom he denies to be a God, but affirms to be an angel.To him, he says, was allotted the seed of Abraham, and accordingly he it was who transferred the sons of Israel from the land of Egypt into the land of Canaan; affirming him to be turbulent above the other angels, and accordingly given to the frequent arousing of seditions and wars, yes, and the shedding of human blood.
Christ, moreover, he affirms to have been sent, not by this maker of the world, but by the above-named Abraxas;
and to have come in a phantasm, and been destitute of the substance of flesh:
that it was not He who suffered among the Jews, but that Simon was crucified in His stead: whence, again, there must be no believing on him who was crucified, lest one confess to having believed on Simon.
Christ, moreover, was sent by that First-Father who is Bythus.
He, moreover, was not in the substance of our flesh;
but, bringing down from heaven some spiritual body or other,
passed through the Virgin Mary as water through a pipe, neither receiving nor borrowing aught thence.The resurrection of our present flesh he denies, but (maintains that) of some sister-flesh.
Of the Law and the prophets some parts he approves, some he disapproves; that is, he disapproves all in reprobating some.
A Gospel of his own he likewise has, beside these of ours.
Of LUGAN, CERDO etc showing the SOURCE of the CORE GOSPEL:
To this is added one Cerdo. He introduces two first causes, that is, two Gods--one good, the other cruel: the good being the superior; the latter, the cruel one, being the creator of the world.
He repudiates the prophecies and the Law; renounces God the Creator;
maintains that Christ who came was the Son of the superior God;affirms that He was not in the substance of flesh; states Him to have been only in a phantasmal shape, to have not really suffered, but undergone a quasipassion, and not to have been born of a virgin, nay, really not to have been born at all.
A resurrection of the soul merely does he approve, denying that of the body. The Gospel of Luke alone, and that not entire, does he receive.
Of the Apostle Paul he takes neither all the epistles, nor in their integrity. The Acts of the Apostles and the Apocalypse he rejects as false.
Alexander Hislop defended by the Catholic Encyclopedia said:
Why, thus: Long before the fourth century, and long before the Christian era itself, a festival was celebrated among the heathen, at that precise time of the year, in honour of the birth of the son of the Babylonian queen of heaven; and it may fairly be presumed that,
in order to conciliate the heathen, and to swell the number of the nominal adherents of Christianity,
the same festival was adopted by the Roman Church, giving it only the name of Christ."This tendency on the part of Christians to meet Paganism half-way was very early developed; and we find Tertullian, even in his day, about the year 230, bitterly lamenting the inconsistency of the disciples of Christ in this respect,
........ and contrasting it with the strict fidelity of the Pagans to their own superstition."By us," says he, "who are strangers to Sabbaths, and new moons, and festivals, once acceptable to God, the Saturnalia, the feasts of January, the Brumalia, and Matronalia, are now frequented; gifts are carried to and fro, new year's day presents are made with din, and sports and banquets are celebrated with uproar;
oh, how much more faithful are the heathen to their religion, who take special care to adopt no solemnity from the Christians."
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Rubel Shelly:
"Whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the
name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father
through him," counseled the Apostle Paul (Col. 3:17).
If any activity, celebration, or feast cannot be immersed in Christ-honoring significance, there is no place for it in our lives.
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The Name and Mark Of The Beast HippolytusLucifer, Nimrod, Saturn, Molech, Sophia (serpent) and ZOE (beast) are all names which identify pagan religions. Saturn is the Son of the S.U.N. Apollo is the S.U.N. God and we have a description of him "navigating the winds" and using music to collect his "ministers" for his Seeker Center at Delphi. Apollo is Apollyon or Abbadon: the destroyer.
The serpents, however, of the magicians-(that is,) the gods of destruction-withstood the power of Moses in Egypt, but the rod of Moses reduced them all to subjection and slew them.
This universal serpent is, he says, the wise discourse of Eve.
[Eve, or ZOE, the Mediatrix, was honored because the serpent taught her feminine knowledge]
This, he says, is the mystery of Edem, this the river of Edem;
........ this the mark that was set upon